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RicoS Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2006 Posts: 583
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: SS Coolant Pipes |
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| What is the consensus: stainless coolant pipes - good or bad? |
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shadetreetim Samba Member

Joined: January 10, 2011 Posts: 1994 Location: Riverside, California
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Many post on this subject already. And many opinions on the good and bad of them. I lean towards the good, I put them on my van. _________________ Tim Potts
Doing my best every time I drive it to dispel the myth these Vanagons have to be slow!
'89 Vanagon Bluestar/Country Homes 1.8T & .77 4th
'74 Jeep CJ5 |
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Corwyn  Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2009 Posts: 2453 Location: Olympia, Washington
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Good.
I think they are evolutionary.
If VW were to build these today, I think stainless would be their choice. Plastic was obviously a cost-cutting measure. I have an entire RMW stainless cooling system on board and will not worry about it for a very long time. _________________ '90 White Westy ("White Lightning")
FAS Gen V 2.0
The Annual Baja Rally
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604813&highlight=baja
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vanonimous Samba Member

Joined: October 19, 2013 Posts: 366 Location: Burien, Center of the Universe
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Do it! I got mine from Van Cafe. They were sort of pain to replace but in the end wort it every centimeter. _________________ If happiness is being a mechanic, owning a Vanagon is nirvana.
Lighting upgrades: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=578291 |
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GreggK Samba Member

Joined: May 17, 2008 Posts: 1025 Location: Colorado/Philidelphia
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Has anyone worked them into a Subaru conversion? Any modification needed? |
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ThankYouJerry Samba Member

Joined: September 01, 2012 Posts: 2271 Location: Shakedown Street
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Has anyone worked them into a Subaru conversion? Any modification needed? |
They are regularly used for Subie conversions (and Bostig, VW 1.8T, etc).
No mods. Just buy the correct ones from RMW.
OP - The question should be phrased… "Stainless Coolant Pipes… good idea… or GREAT idea?" _________________ 1990 Multivan - "Ohana"
1.8T, Auto w/3.27 R&P + Peloquin TBD |
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Terry Kay Banned

Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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The stainless pipes will eat your engine from the inside out with vengance--
Like a bottom feeding carp will eat the bottom of a pond clean.
I'm offering Pyrex full length pipes next month.
They will have no leaching properties on the aluminum forever.
Morta. _________________ T.K.
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drossen Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2014 Posts: 23 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Terry Kay wrote: |
The stainless pies will eat your engine from the inside out with vengance--
Like a bottom feeding carp will eat the bottom of a pond clean.
I'm offering Pyrex full length pipes next month--lets see the other bottom feeder's follow this lead as they did with the stainless pipe I introduced.
They will have no leaching properties on the aluminum forever.
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Did you have any threads or proof of the damage from SS? |
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Terry Kay Banned

Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Do a subject serach--you'll find out that the dooms day prepper's claim to fame is on the self destruction Stainless pipes.
I defended the stainless pipes--the nay sayer's are all metalurigal engineer's here obviously and know better than anyone on the planet.
I just bumped my stainless pipes to pyrex--blew right past aluminum.
I want something that nothing will touch--ever.
So, that's the end of the self destruction to engine aluminum conversation, and no back yard mo-jo can pound them out on hs foot operated hydraulic press in his straw hut in Bora Bora, or Pitcaran Island.
I'll have this Vanagon update that I created back on my own again---back prior to the opportunist barrcuda's outsourcing them to Tiawan, Bombay, China, Serria Leone, Poland, or other geographic points of slave labor--and have the added benifit of never causing any electroletical engine corrosion, be it real or imaginary, factual or fictional. _________________ T.K.
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drossen Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2014 Posts: 23 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Are you referring to galvanizing of the engine / components from steel pipes? I talked to several vendors who sell SS pipes including RMW who sells both aluminum and SS and no one said they had reports of galvanizing.
Edit: TK are you just being sarcastic? What's the point of such a confusing first post and follow up to someones honest question.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=536861&highlight=galvinizing
You say at the end of this thread it isn't a problem. Unless you were being sarcastic there as well.
No one has any problems with it unless you have ancient coolant. |
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bmdhacks Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2013 Posts: 60
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:43 am Post subject: |
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He's joking about having glass coolant pipes. _________________ 88 Vanagon Westy w/ 2200cc + manual trans |
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SCM Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3480 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| drossen wrote: |
Edit: TK are you just being sarcastic? What's the point of such a confusing first post and follow up to someones honest question.
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TK = sarcastic (he's also a SS pipe vendor) _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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nacradriver Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2009 Posts: 761 Location: Ventura, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| Do it! I got mine from Van Cafe. They were sort of pain to replace but in the end wort it every centimeter. |
^^^^^What he said^^^^^ _________________ Güdrun -1989 Westfalia - 2013 - 2018
Petra - 1985 Vanagon - 1985 to 1991
Zisa - 1974 VW Van "Bus" - 1974 to 1985 |
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kalispell365 Samba Member

Joined: April 01, 2010 Posts: 889 Location: PNW
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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And Terrys pipes will fit a Subaru conversion properly. I own his and think his fit is the most correct/ like the originals. _________________ 1983 Diesel Vanagon Westfalia chassis with Subaru 2.2l |
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insyncro Banned

Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Pyrex
TK rules and has a sense of humor that I wish more had and could even understand around here.
I own and have installed TK's stainless pipes, RMW's and the VW version imported from Europe.
All excellent quality and my engines are just fine.
FYI, one, my first EG33 conversion has over 100,000 miles on it in the Vanagon and at the last coolant swap...every year BTW, no corrosion was seen on the interior of the pipes, no head gasket issues or radiator issues.
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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My original plastic pipes made it over 200k and nearly 30 years.
_________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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shadetreetim Samba Member

Joined: January 10, 2011 Posts: 1994 Location: Riverside, California
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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But Pyrex comes with plastic lids.  _________________ Tim Potts
Doing my best every time I drive it to dispel the myth these Vanagons have to be slow!
'89 Vanagon Bluestar/Country Homes 1.8T & .77 4th
'74 Jeep CJ5 |
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big swifty Samba Member

Joined: August 21, 2007 Posts: 255 Location: Formally in Republic of VT; now in Hollywood, FL
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Is that BPA-free plastic? Otherwise those SS pipes will also cause cancer. _________________ Evan
1987 Vanagon Syncro // Westfalia pop-top graft // Factory new ALH. 11mm IP. AFN 110 RC 2,3,4 // S7 turbo// Titan P502's
2013 Golf 4d TDI. Deleted. Tunezilla Stage2.
1991 Jetta coupe TD. Giles Superpump. SOLD |
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member

Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5938 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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My original plastic pipes made it over 200k and nearly 30 years.
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I'm with you on this. Dixie's at 301,000 miles and counting with the OEM plastic coolant tubes. _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7.5 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
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http://sites.google.com/site/subyjake/mydixiedarlin%27
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squeegee_boy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2008 Posts: 786 Location: Langley, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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My wife's van's OEM pipes made it for 24 years and ~200k km. And I discovered 30 minutes ago that the ends have mostly backed out.
So stainless pipes are going in tomorrow
Robyn _________________ 1984 FrankenSyncro Westy. EJ25 RMW kit |
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