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Hiramhaus Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:38 am Post subject: Windshield Problems |
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Hello,
I have searched it up and read about cheap Chinese glass, supposedly 5/8" bigger than stock in top corners. Any word on gaskets?
I brought my van to Safelite (first mistake) due to windshield special and being assured that they could do it at a price I couldn't get the glass and gasket in for.
First they tell me that the gasket they got was too thick, no big surprise.
Then they tell me its not the gasket but the glass that is too big. So not real surprised by that either.
Then I overnight a Jbugs gasket from California to Iowa at my own expense.
Now they tell me the old windshield - will not fit with my new gasket from Jbugs....or the Safelite one they have. I think they've lost their minds.
The place down the street said they can get me Pinkerton Glass in about a week, but now my windshield is out and I have NO GARAGE.
I know people talk about glass problems, but gasket problems? This is a German made bus. 1973
Heres my garage:
Any insight? _________________ 1969 Ghia
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Randy in Maine Samba Member

Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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Suggestion...it is likely that the seal on the bottom is not squished down as much as it should be...
It should look more like this.....or more so.
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Hiramhaus Samba Member

Joined: October 05, 2006 Posts: 668 Location: IC
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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I went and picked it up just now with the old glass in as far as they could get it. I pushed on the bottom of the seal, and it could see it moved about 1/4" down - I think they are just incompetent with older vehicles. There is some wrestling do be done and they just were not up to the task.
I am at work now - I'll give it a go when I get home. From what I have read Pinkerton glass should be a direct fit and it should be here Thursday.
I look forward to getting this settled. I'll post up what really happens. _________________ 1969 Ghia
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Randy in Maine Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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If you can lay the seal out in the hot Iowa sunshine until it is about 25% melted, it should squish down on the bottom lip quite well. that will alow it to fit up at the top easier.
It is still a pretty tight fit and requires some working the inside (of the car) lip of the metal lip to seal it well. Sometimes they sand the new windshield very carefully. |
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Ives676 Samba Member

Joined: June 20, 2013 Posts: 274 Location: Rogers, AR
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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I just installed a new windshield about two months ago. I bought the German quality gasket and I ordered a PGW brand windshield. It was actually the only one the local glass shop could get.
I installed it myself with the help of two friends. We wrapped rope around the the gasket. Applied soapy water to the bus's windshield opening and the gasket/rope. Then with lots of pressure from the outside, two of use pushed as the third pulled on the rope to seat the gasket. It was a chore for sure. _________________ 1974 Riviera - Subaru EJ22
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cmonSTART Samba Member

Joined: July 15, 2014 Posts: 1915 Location: NH
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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Interesting - Safelite's service and ability must vary with location (and probably technician.) They replaced my windshield recently and I was really impressed - the guy knew what he was doing. Whatever windshield they ordered (PPG?) went right in, though I think we used my Bus Depot seal. _________________ '78 Bus 2.0FI
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Hiramhaus Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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cmonSTART wrote: |
Interesting - Safelite's service and ability must vary with location (and probably technician.) They replaced my windshield recently and I was really impressed - the guy knew what he was doing. Whatever windshield they ordered (PPG?) went right in, though I think we used my Bus Depot seal. |
Its funny because he kept saying "Well the problem is your bus is from Argentina" said it about 4 times. My wife was about to choke him out. I assured him its an American standard German built bus like all the others. He sure wanted it to be "my fault" I said, I don't care to talk about it any more, I'll take it back the way it is. No charge except to overnight my gasket in from California ($100 / w shipping). Looking at other threads and what you guys said above, I suspect I'll get it right in there.
mike _________________ 1969 Ghia
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17842 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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WW seal, Jaime @ autoglass dynamics=happy skillz
we have had to trim the last 4 windshields. he could get a ppg, but had the shade line that I hate with a passion. we used some ching a ling glass from the 2 manufacturers he could get without the shade line. _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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airkooledchris Samba Member

Joined: January 25, 2005 Posts: 2720
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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i desperately need to do mine as well, but I can't stand the shade at the top either. if I have to id rather go with the china glass |
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OB Bus Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2720 Location: Ocean Beach - San Diego
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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I used the PGW (?) Chinese glass without the stripe a few years back. All Star Glass put it in without needing to trim anything. Seal from WCM or WWW. They knew what they were doing and I've had no problems in all those years. _________________ Larry in OB
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cmonSTART Samba Member

Joined: July 15, 2014 Posts: 1915 Location: NH
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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cmonSTART wrote: |
Interesting - Safelite's service and ability must vary with location (and probably technician.) They replaced my windshield recently and I was really impressed - the guy knew what he was doing. Whatever windshield they ordered (PPG?) went right in, though I think we used my Bus Depot seal. |
Correction, PGW windshield with the Bus Depot "Good" seal. _________________ '78 Bus 2.0FI
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Hiramhaus Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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Guy down the street (All Iowa Glass) did it in about an hour. He ordered the Pilkington said he trimmed 1/16" but said he really didn't need to but he thought it was a touch better.
Glad to have it in, I like the tint at the top _________________ 1969 Ghia
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Ricache Samba Member

Joined: March 28, 2012 Posts: 54 Location: Wylie,TX
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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Just had binswagen do mine yesterday after I busted my new one 2 weeks ago just putting the WW seal on.
I've installed glass many many times on dubs. This windshield was to much.
Not bad. I kinda like the upper tint. _________________ _________________________________
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17842 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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report back on that upper tint...
I find it to be right in my line of sight, and it drives me batshit crazy _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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JackieBloom Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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Well, we are in the mist of restoring our 1972 Westfalia camper van. Lots and lots of windshield problems.
It was so rusty under the windshield we replaced the panel, painted the outside and inside. (Awesome job) but, now we are putting in the new windshield and the glass guy says it won't fit. 3 tries with 3 different new Chinese windshields. He says that when we put the new panel under the windshield we changed the radius of the opening! He gave up. The gasket is new. (Wolfsburgwest). We are at a total loss. Bewildered. Any tips out there? |
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jtauxe  Samba Member

Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5975 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
report back on that upper tint...
I find it to be right in my line of sight, and it drives me batshit crazy |
Oh, so THAT explains it.  _________________ John
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Hiramhaus Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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JackieBloom wrote: |
Well, we are in the mist of restoring our 1972 Westfalia camper van. Lots and lots of windshield problems.
It was so rusty under the windshield we replaced the panel, painted the outside and inside. (Awesome job) but, now we are putting in the new windshield and the glass guy says it won't fit. 3 tries with 3 different new Chinese windshields. He says that when we put the new panel under the windshield we changed the radius of the opening! He gave up. The gasket is new. (Wolfsburgwest). We are at a total loss. Bewildered. Any tips out there? |
I didn't install mine, but the guy told me usually you start at the bottom and then push in the top. He tried that, didn't like it, so he started at the top. The other thing is to make sure the gasket is seated all the way first.
Hope it helps, I'd say go to the oldest person you can find.
Good luck, it sucks to be in between.
Mike _________________ 1969 Ghia
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Tcash Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Problems |
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JackieBloom wrote: |
Well, we are in the mist of restoring our 1972 Westfalia camper van. Lots and lots of windshield problems.
It was so rusty under the windshield we replaced the panel, painted the outside and inside. (Awesome job) but, now we are putting in the new windshield and the glass guy says it won't fit. 3 tries with 3 different new Chinese windshields. He says that when we put the new panel under the windshield we changed the radius of the opening! He gave up. The gasket is new. (Wolfsburgwest). We are at a total loss. Bewildered. Any tips out there? |
Welcome to TheSamba.
Would not be the first time a glass shop has had problems putting the glass in.
There are only a few that fit right.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...mp;start=0
Maybe someone with the glass out can give you some measurements.
Good luck
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