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metahacker Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:29 am Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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I've ran the following:
Standard original OG ones
Wolfsburg West SS
BusDepot
German eBay aftermarket
Wolfsburg West SS with convex glass from a German vendor
Random US aftermarket
AutoWares convex
The BEST mirrors have been the AutoWares convex ones.
https://www.autowares.co.uk/product/bay-window-convex-mirror-1967-1979-pair
Although it's probably best to order them here:
https://resto-bus-parts.myshopify.com/products/bay-window-convex-mirror-1967-1979-individual
They seem to be the same as the WW but with MUCH MUCH better visibility.
No silly crap like stick on blind spot mirrors are needed and one can drive with 100% confidence all the time, using only the side mirrors.
Second to these would be the WW mirrors with the convex glass that sticks over top (from the German eBay vendor linked a couple posts down on the thread below about convex mirror glass).
They make for a nice option, although... they don't provide as much of a field of view as the AutoWares (but they are MUCH better than all the other standard glass - e.g. US spec - mirrors).... and if you look very closely you might notice that there's two pieces of glass.. but they're very nice as well (if I already had WW and wanted to save money, adding the convex glass on top is a very nice compromise...but the AutoWares ones are worth the spend if you really want the maximum performance, IMO).
There are original OG convex mirrors from Europe (still Hagus I believe)
Those seem to very very nice as well, but good luck ever finding one of each side to make a pair. I searched for awhile for these...and saw one pop up every once in awhile. I think it was only the passenger(?) side though, I don't believe I ever saw one of each... having two OE convex Hagus mirrors would probably be the most straight baller pimpin gangster option...but, like I said, good luck finding them.
Also, here is a fun alternatively styled option:
https://resto-bus-parts.myshopify.com/products/side-mirrors-elephant-style
I don't think I'd call them best at anything, though.
Probably be decent with some round convex "blindspot mirrors" in the right spot though... their shape seems to lend itself to them well.
here is the thread on the convex glass, with another user reporting back about AutoWares mirrors (you can find the link to buy the stick-over mirror glass here):
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=646958&highlight=convex
also of note are these Delrin mirror washers/bushings that go against the paintwork where the mirror arm threads in
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trk...;_osacat=0
I've ran the white ones on two buses and like them very much.
I would also recommend that you oil (waxoyl even perhaps) the threads in the door and/or grease the threads on the mirror arm end. You can sometimes get rust issues in there...... |
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kingsgate Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2019 Posts: 3 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:55 am Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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metahacker wrote: |
I've ran the following:
Standard original OG ones
Wolfsburg West SS
BusDepot
German eBay aftermarket
Wolfsburg West SS with convex glass from a German vendor
Random US aftermarket
AutoWares convex
The BEST mirrors have been the AutoWares convex ones.
https://www.autowares.co.uk/product/bay-window-convex-mirror-1967-1979-pair
Although it's probably best to order them here:
https://resto-bus-parts.myshopify.com/products/bay-window-convex-mirror-1967-1979-individual
They seem to be the same as the WW but with MUCH MUCH better visibility.
No silly crap like stick on blind spot mirrors are needed and one can drive with 100% confidence all the time, using only the side mirrors.
Second to these would be the WW mirrors with the convex glass that sticks over top (from the German eBay vendor linked a couple posts down on the thread below about convex mirror glass).
They make for a nice option, although... they don't provide as much of a field of view as the AutoWares (but they are MUCH better than all the other standard glass - e.g. US spec - mirrors).... and if you look very closely you might notice that there's two pieces of glass.. but they're very nice as well (if I already had WW and wanted to save money, adding the convex glass on top is a very nice compromise...but the AutoWares ones are worth the spend if you really want the maximum performance, IMO).
There are original OG convex mirrors from Europe (still Hagus I believe)
Those seem to very very nice as well, but good luck ever finding one of each side to make a pair. I searched for awhile for these...and saw one pop up every once in awhile. I think it was only the passenger(?) side though, I don't believe I ever saw one of each... having two OE convex Hagus mirrors would probably be the most straight baller pimpin gangster option...but, like I said, good luck finding them.
Also, here is a fun alternatively styled option:
https://resto-bus-parts.myshopify.com/products/side-mirrors-elephant-style
I don't think I'd call them best at anything, though.
Probably be decent with some round convex "blindspot mirrors" in the right spot though... their shape seems to lend itself to them well.
here is the thread on the convex glass, with another user reporting back about AutoWares mirrors (you can find the link to buy the stick-over mirror glass here):
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=646958&highlight=convex
also of note are these Delrin mirror washers/bushings that go against the paintwork where the mirror arm threads in
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trk...;_osacat=0
I've ran the white ones on two buses and like them very much.
I would also recommend that you oil (waxoyl even perhaps) the threads in the door and/or grease the threads on the mirror arm end. You can sometimes get rust issues in there...... |
Very useful thanks!
So, I have two convex mirror glasses, 2 perfect mirror "bodies".
The drivers side one I have not yet touched.
The other side one has no glass in it now (got broken) and the grey plastic surround is not in great shape. The plastic surround has degraded over the years, although it is still mostly in one piece.
I want to install my 2 new convex mirror glasses to the existing mirrors. Is some sort of silicone stuff out of a tube going to hold the replacement glasses in place, do you think? |
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metahacker Samba Member

Joined: May 26, 2010 Posts: 890 Location: san.diego
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:01 am Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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I believe Sikaflex would bond/hold it and never fail you.... probably sika 296 which is rated for marine glazing related work but you should evaluate the line and read the specifications...I'm sure that the more general purpose sika 252 would work as well. but to be totally honest, 3M VHB probably would be the easiest and never fail either. 3M 4950 is strong enough to hold an awning to a bus in high winds without even the slightest fear.
I wonder if grey silicone hose would make a convincing beading for the exterior perimeter (i've seen people use regular cheap autozone type vacuum line and it fit ok...looked ..... o.k. not great if you are used to looking at the grey but seemed to fit well) |
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KentABQ  Samba Member

Joined: September 11, 2016 Posts: 2471 Location: Albuquerque NM
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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I installed one on the passenger side, and I wholeheartedly agree with metahacker.
Visibility improved dramatically over the previous flat mirror with little convex stick-on mirror.
Now for a stupid question...
Are convex mirrors legal to install on the driver's side?
I don't think I've seen them on any modern cars. Just wondering.... _________________ -Kent-
1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
"I must say, how can you be in a bad mood driving this vehicle full of vibrant color.
Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
Bus ownership via emoticons:
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RalphWiggam Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2018 Posts: 908 Location: SouthEast
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:27 am Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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Ordered a set from the UK site. The US site only had 1 side available.
Is the curve only on one axis or both? ie....does it matter which way i orient the mirror for the convexity? |
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RalphWiggam Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2018 Posts: 908 Location: SouthEast
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:58 am Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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My set from:
https://www.autowares.co.uk/product/bay-window-convex-mirror-1967-1979-pair
Came in on saturday. Took about 3 weeks or so from the UK. The US site only had one side.
They seem OK. Not great. Not terrible. I dont have anything to compare them to besides the original VW ones on my bus. When I took my originals off I noticed they weighed a lot more than these repos. I think the arm on the repos are hollow or something.
When setup, the visibility is much better. I guess we will see how they hold up over the years. |
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Busdepot Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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I have an update on these mirrors. To recap, they were originally factory-supplied on Brazilian spec Deluxe Kombi's and become very popular for use on US Buses... until VW/Brazil started jacking up the price, which climbed to about $400/pair. The good news is that we just received some Brazilian made repro's which are a lot cheaper -$129/pair. I compared one a genuine one before ordering them, and not surprisingly it looks like a cheaper copy if you compare them side by side - it is just fractionally smaller, the bezel around the glass is slightly different, and one of the mount pieces is plastic rather than metal. None of which you'd notice when mounted on the Bus. However the repro is also noticeably lighter weight and the glass quality is a bit poorer, which are indications that the are not built to the same quality level. Then again they're 1/3 the price, look like the $400 ones, and won't rust like chrome ones do. At that price I'd call them a decent value, so I ordered them. I should note that supply out of Brazil has been very inconsistent, so I can't say whether I'll be able to get them again once they're gone.[/url] _________________ - Ron Salmon
The Bus Depot
www.busdepot.com |
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notchboy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22659 Location: Escondido CA
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64 ragtop volks Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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W1K1 Samba Member

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notchboy Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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Thats the same issue with the stock repops. Tells me they are just replacing the glass. _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
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W1K1 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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I figured it out last night, the nut on the mirror stem was only half assed finished.
The threads were only part way into the bottom nut, so it bottomed out before it would tighten, I swapped the nut with one of my other repop mirrors and it tightened right up.
Must have been a friday afternoon job  _________________ http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/jim_martin_engine_build.php
1973 super
1965 squareback 1500E
1971 bay window westy- subi swap |
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Norma Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2020 Posts: 217 Location: Nor Cal
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:55 am Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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I ordered a license plate seal, I think airheadparts. lt is light grey, very close to to white of the original plastic housing for the side mirrors. Both my side mirrors are broken, I’m seeking a local shop to cut new glass, I’ll try the gray tubing and report my opinion after installed. _________________ 1976
Injected 2.0 Bay Window
3rd owner of 14 years now!
Fortunately, I was able to travel in Norma Jeanne for 1.5 years, from Eureka to Tijuana. I loved every minute❤️ |
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Air_Cooled_Nut Samba Member

Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 3068 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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W1K1 wrote: |
anyone have trouble getting their Auto wares mirrors tight?
I finally installed mine, but they seem pretty loose on the mirror arm base, they fold in really easy when you touch them, and I don't want to break them trying to tighten them too much
they work well on both sides for a good view, but I have to adjust them every time I slam the door... |
No issues with either of mine, I love 'em!  _________________ Toby http://www.aircoolednut.com/
Did I mention that I'm an original Darksider?
'72 VW Squareback, 2007cc, GB 5-speed, rag top; '76 VW Riviera Penthouse Sundowner 2.0L; 2015 Audi S5 Cabby w/Stage II APR; '06 Ducati Sport Classic 1000; '14 Ducati Diavel Strada
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W1K1 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:54 am Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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W1K1 wrote: |
I figured it out last night, the nut on the mirror stem was only half assed finished.
The threads were only part way into the bottom nut, so it bottomed out before it would tighten, I swapped the nut with one of my other repop mirrors and it tightened right up.
Must have been a friday afternoon job  |
After the last road trip, the driver side Autowares mirror was auto folding as soon as we got to 70mph , so I took it apart, and an old mirror for comparison
Old mirror parts on the left, autowares mirror on the right
It makes sense that the autowares mirror couldn’t hold as well as the old mirror
I swapped the spring and washer from the old mirror, and it is really solid now.
_________________ http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/jim_martin_engine_build.php
1973 super
1965 squareback 1500E
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jjvincent Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:15 am Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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If you have a mirror that comes off, jut remember, it works great as an inspection mirror. If just the lens, it works. If the lens with the housing, even better as it will rest in your hand and use the bump to go in between two of your fingers. |
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Shonandb Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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W1K1 wrote: |
W1K1 wrote: |
I figured it out last night, the nut on the mirror stem was only half assed finished.
The threads were only part way into the bottom nut, so it bottomed out before it would tighten, I swapped the nut with one of my other repop mirrors and it tightened right up.
Must have been a friday afternoon job  |
After the last road trip, the driver side Autowares mirror was auto folding as soon as we got to 70mph , |
I thought that this (auto-folding) was a built in feature of the mirrors to help streamline the aerodynamics of your Bus when driving fast.... _________________ *******************************
76 Westy with a 2.5L Subaru SOHC + Vanagon (010) Automatic Transaxle
Build & Trip Thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=758760
Previous 1973 Panel Bus:
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jjvincent Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:39 am Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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Shonandb wrote: |
W1K1 wrote: |
W1K1 wrote: |
I figured it out last night, the nut on the mirror stem was only half assed finished.
The threads were only part way into the bottom nut, so it bottomed out before it would tighten, I swapped the nut with one of my other repop mirrors and it tightened right up.
Must have been a friday afternoon job  |
After the last road trip, the driver side Autowares mirror was auto folding as soon as we got to 70mph , |
I thought that this (auto-folding) was a built in feature of the mirrors to help streamline the aerodynamics of your Bus when driving fast.... |
You are correct. This is because you don't need a mirror because you are passing everyone due to the high rate of speed you can go in a bus. |
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W1K1 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: The best replacement side view mirrors thread |
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Shonandb wrote: |
W1K1 wrote: |
W1K1 wrote: |
I figured it out last night, the nut on the mirror stem was only half assed finished.
The threads were only part way into the bottom nut, so it bottomed out before it would tighten, I swapped the nut with one of my other repop mirrors and it tightened right up.
Must have been a friday afternoon job  |
After the last road trip, the driver side Autowares mirror was auto folding as soon as we got to 70mph , |
I thought that this (auto-folding) was a built in feature of the mirrors to help streamline the aerodynamics of your Bus when driving fast.... |
I’m glad I have the 150 degree rear view mirror camera, at least that gives me a nice wide view out back. Now if I could get rid of some of the wind noise at highway speeds……. _________________ http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/jim_martin_engine_build.php
1973 super
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