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nerdhotrod Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2014 Posts: 49 Location: CT
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:07 am Post subject: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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Hey guys... The "S" intake boot on my newly acquired 76 Westy had many "amateur" (Im being nice with that term) patches and repairs!
After searching around and realizing that most/all of the used S boots I would purchase would have some dry rot/cracking and would eventually suffer the same fate as my original... I took the plunge at 95 bucks on GEEBEE's reproduction silicon piece. Fit is perfect, quality is top notch and Guy(GEEBEE) was great to work with and order from! Totally worth the money in my opinion!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1321070
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member

Joined: February 21, 2007 Posts: 3038 Location: Commack, NY
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nerdhotrod Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Mike! I will post there as well. |
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member

Joined: February 21, 2007 Posts: 3038 Location: Commack, NY
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Just the same, this is great to know about. Mine had a crack in it about a year ago and I was able to find a used original. If this is a good fit, it may be a more permanent solution. _________________ Mike
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JDub113 Samba Member

Joined: June 08, 2009 Posts: 774 Location: Reno
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know much about silicone, but sometimes they feel real and other times they don't. How do you think it will hold up compared to stock? If stock intake lasts about 35 years, is the silicone more durable, or how will it do with temp changes over the years? I need one and am reluctant to find a used one with the same problems. I looked at one in the classifieds and it has a chunk missing out of it. Shiny new one is looking good. _________________ 84 Wolfsburg Edition Westy |
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Chris_914 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2011 Posts: 344 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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This is a buy it and forget about it product.
Silicone hoses are not something new and are typically used in extreme duty vehicles.
I have the set, fit and quality are top notch.
Bus restorations are at a peak and products of this nature won't be around forever. _________________ '75 Westfalia Camper FI 1.8L
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 23547 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Some might be. I am starting to mold select silicone products for bus, type 4 and type 3. Silicones are both easy and difficult. The molding and mold making (if you have anycexperience) are easy. Getting the right formulation to exceed or match the life of Buna-N and other synthetic rubbers is not so easy.
Some silicones that are high temp dont do as well with solvents, alcohols ....and oddly....with certain ingredients in greases.
I have been doing the research as part of my normal industry for about five years. Its getting there.
Patronize people when they are able to offer parts like this. If just enough $ is there....and tje stars align an e timing is right....they may be able to stay in business.
I know when mine gets off the ground soon....it cannot be my main business. The volume is too low versus raw material purchase minimums.
Silicone cant do everything.....but with the right molding and reinforcement techniques it can do parts like the S boot better than stock.
Nice boot. With a bit more development it could be made to look just like factory.....but like most....I would settle for function over form in the case of that part. Ray |
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JDub113 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| Chris_914 wrote: |
Bus restorations are at a peak and products of this nature won't be around forever. |
That is what I was thinking about when I read "lifetime warranty." Not that product is not quality, but demand may change. I'll most likely get one when I have a few extra bucks. _________________ 84 Wolfsburg Edition Westy |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 23547 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| JDub113 wrote: |
| Chris_914 wrote: |
Bus restorations are at a peak and products of this nature won't be around forever. |
That is what I was thinking about when I read "lifetime warranty." Not that product is not quality, but demand may change. I'll most likely get one when I have a few extra bucks. |
In answer to your earlier post....silicones....if they are the correct formulation handle heat much better than the factory synthetic rubber. They are more flexible and more tear resistant.
There are two main categories of curing agent for silicone and a couple of hybrids....and a zillion formulations of each. Some of the formulas of one catalyst type dont do as well long term with alcohols and hydrocarbons.
But considering that even the best silicones in our environment will not succumb to the heat and get brittle....it will probably be just about as long lasting.
The main failure point of the factory rubber really starts around 15 years or less. It hardens up and cracks from excessive movement. The fact that many S-boots have been around and functional for 40 years is pure luck. They dont move around much if the owner is careful.....but the known response of "check you S boot for cracks" has been around for eons even when the boots were just 10 years old....they got brittle enough to be risky.
The risk of silicone with age....is not cracking. Its spots getting gooey and soft after long term attack from gasoline solvent and oil vapor. It will likely be as long getting to that stage as synthetic rubber is to get to the crack risk stage.
To your second post....I have not looked at GeeBee.....but if I were you ....if you need one...get one. I can virtually guarantee from the shape that this is a polymer...non permanent tool/mold. If will have to be rebuilt at some frequency. If the demand is not there....it wont be
Also....as complex as the S boot is....I can guarantee that there is not enough business from the whole bus ownership to warrant the cost of permanent tooling. If for some reason GeeBEE does not stay in business. ..there will be no permanent mold to go to some enterprising company to take up the challenge and mold these parts for you. Support the people who are offering the rare parts when they offer it...or possibly miss the boat altogether. Ray |
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levi20AE Samba Member

Joined: June 24, 2005 Posts: 485 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I have been running a few different silicone hoses from GEEBEE for a few years now and they are all of excellent quality. He makes alot of pieces that are for small niche markets in the watercooled world. I have a few pieces that make a later diesel swap into a Mk1 easy. If you look up his work in forums like vwdiesel.net you can checkout the quality of his caddy build. Easy to work with and his parts came with a lifetime warranty, much better than piecing together rubber coolant lines from the FLAPS. _________________ 1973 Campmobile http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=524511&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member

Joined: February 21, 2007 Posts: 3038 Location: Commack, NY
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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Was surprised to see that I commented on this thread ages ago - needed the boot and completely forgot this was here. Surprisingly, just bought the GeeBee set too and when I unpacked today there were a few blue rubber "rings" in the bag too.
Does anyone know what these are for?
_________________ Mike
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1921 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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Interesting. None of the parts I bought from him came with those. I got mine a couple of years ago though. _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
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aerosurfer Samba Member

Joined: March 25, 2012 Posts: 1603 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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Maybe product samples for his other lines? Like how Worksberg includes a piece if his ABS plastic in his packages.
Did you email him directly? _________________ Rebuild your own FI Harness..My Harness
77 Westy 2.0L Rockin and Rolling Resto!
72 Sportsmobile (sold)
79 Tran$porter... Parts car money machine (gone) |
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:33 am Post subject: Re: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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Nope. I'll have to though! Lol _________________ Mike
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ROCKOROD71 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:16 am Post subject: Re: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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Last year I replaced all my fuel lines and vacuum hoses, as well as install a good OEM decal valve (mine had some other decal rigged in with "adaptor" hoses") Bought 3 or 4 hoses from GEEBEE, all were excellent fit and are holding up well. Don't need the S boot yet but maybe should take the plunge and stash it. I think he will be around for a while. He does stuff for other cars and aviation applications as well IIRC.
Worth every penny. _________________ 1971 STD BEETLE- DD-1st car, 1st love. keepin' it stock! 1600DP, Solex 34-3 Mexi Bosch SVDA Dist NOW w/POINTS
1977 WESTY "KrustyKamper" 2L FI
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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I bought one of everything he makes for the late bay.
Will put it on this weekend.
Found out, the blue rings are garden hose seals!
He said that he doesn't like to waste material.
How awesome! _________________ Mike
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THall Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 9:18 am Post subject: Re: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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I'm in the market for a quality S-Boot. I did recently get one from Airhead Parts, and while it works, it's flimsy and seems failure will come sooner than later.
Because of this I'd really like one that Guy (geebee) makes. I have most of his other hoses and they are excellent and worth the cost.
I reached out to him and he has no stock currently and needs a group buy of at least six units to do a run. It would be 3-5 week lead-time and a cost of $227.50 each. I know these are spendy, but to me totally worth getting top quality vs the crappy part I currently have.
Looking for others who would like one of these to satisfy his minimum build quantity. Please reach out to Guy directly via email ([email protected]) to let him know you'd like to purchase one. _________________ '78 Westy - 2.0 FI |
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andrewtf Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 9:43 am Post subject: Re: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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I could be in on that deal.
I need one for my latest project.
andreWTF _________________ '75 Riviera - 'BIG EMMA' - Travel Beast
'77 Riviera - 'Murphy' - Daily driver in nice weather
'78 Westy - New to the family
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metahacker Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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i had the complete geebee kit on my '78 type 4 jetronic.
i also run his complete hose kit on my turbo diesel '82 vanagon.
the hoses are all extremely nice. his aircraft spec fluorosilicone is very nice.
that said, last time i was there with both parts in hand (both the airhead S-boot and the geebee one) i went with the airhead.
it is a very perfect OEM replacement of high quality, in viton, with ribbing reinforcement etc...with the proper molding to accept the nylon nipples for the attached hoses.
perhaps if i had tried the geebee S-boot with some metal barbs i would feel like that part was better for the long haul.... is that the route you went or did you reuse the OE nylon fittings? |
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THall Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 5:58 am Post subject: Re: GEEBEE's Reporduction S Boot (quick product/vendor review) |
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| metahacker wrote: |
| is that the route you went or did you reuse the OE nylon fittings? |
Yeah, I took the fittings out of my original VW boot for the airhead part.
My OE boot finally developed hidden cracks that were discovered with a smoke test.
And, as I said it's working just fine for now, but it seems to fall into the same category as the issue with current steering couplers; they can be easily folded in half like a taco. That's how the rubber on the new boot feels. It just seems like it could develop a seam crack very easily.
As a normal maintenance item I like to check the torque on the intake manifold nuts which requires removing the AFM/air filter assembly thus disturbing the boot. Maybe it's a non issue and the boot will hold up, but I'm always going to look for the best part I can find...and would like to have a spare anyway. _________________ '78 Westy - 2.0 FI |
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