Clutch dragging cant go into 1st (Morro Bay-broken disc springs)

[Sodo]

We are touring around while dropping off our daughter at Cal Poly SLO. Took a drive on Pismo beach and barely made it off (at the south entrance Pier Ave).

Clutch doesn’t release. So I had to put it in gear and get going with the starter motor, then shift with “emergency methods.

UPDATE: We made it back to our campsite reserved at Morro Strand Park (31 Miles from Pismo).

Just wanted to get a flag hoisted. Not sure what to do yet but the trans/clutch may need to come out.

I have a Smallcar bellhousing and new clutch. Clutch uses the concentric GTi throwout/slave. I bled it, no bubbles. Pedal feels “normal”.

We have several things to do in SLO involved with dropping my girl at college, then we need to drive back to Seattle, so this is kind of a big concern. We may have to rent a car. Would be really great if there are any nearby members with a driveway If I have to drop the trans.

Tom

[cmayna]

Tom,
Really wish I lived closer to Morro Bay (wife wants to retire and move there). Live 200 miles north, in Facebook land, Menlo Park, CA. Hopefully someone more locally will chime in. Keep us posted.

Craig
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Craig

[dobryan]

Too far to help. Hope you get help.
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[Altoona]

Is it 281 or 271

[owokie]

If you're intent on doing your own work, my brother has a carport he could probably lend for a few days. Tall enough to pop the top in, even.

On the other hand you might give Westywerks a call. Super nice guys and impressive shop.

[hdenter]

I'm in the dirt so not much help with pulling the trans. Is there anything else you need? If you want to park it while you drive back in the rental and deal with it later, it could join the herd...

Hans
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[Sodo]

Great offers, thanks. And http://www.westy-werks.com in SanLuis Obispo too. If it comes to that.

I have an offer of driveway space, ramps, tools by a Morro bay fella who’s gonna stop by the campsite and put a 2nd set of eyes on my problem.

At 9AM! This is true SAMBA! Very thankful! And my girls are thankful too.
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[cmayna]

This is great news. Keep us posted.
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Craig

[Jake de Villiers]

Too far to be of any assistance except to say, 'Good luck, Tom!'
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[IdahoDoug]

I no longer have a manual Syncro, but can you get one of the girls to depress the clutch pedal and see the clutch/flywheel through a gap in the bellhousing, or by removing an access plug? Or failing to get a visual through the gap, could you pick up the $70 Harbor Freight LCD remote camera/borescope and see if there is movement? If no movement, then the slave or clutch master is suspect and those are waaaaaay easier to replace.

Doug
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[Waldi]

No idea about Subi conversions, but if use the stock cluch shaft, did you weld it ?
Edit:
I mean the levers to the shaft.

[Sodo]

Yes it behaves exactly like the broken clutch fork. But it has the Smallcar GTi concentric slave/throwout. Current plan is to loosen the engine bolts and lever the trans forward and look into the gap. I’m disconnecting driveline and under-bars and (cough-cough) transaxle cooling monkey business...(cough) hope not to make an oil slick at the campsite.

Pic of #vanlife girls doing old-school Van yoga.
Note: they have the app so they threw dad under the bus & Uber’d outta here

Leveling the van for a special type of driveway campsite
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....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb

[E1]

Westy Lesson #1259

Want happy kids? Break down more often!

Hence, Westy defines perfection once again!


Thanks for the update Bud, hope you're having as much as they are.

(suspect "not even close")



Hang in There!
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[jberger]

Sodo,
you will have to pull the transaxle back at least 2.5-3" to see behind.. and even that will be limited. Consider drilling a hole or two and using a scope to investigate. Or, if your spot is chill enough, just commit to dropping the transaxle and taking care of business. It's not that much more work.

Jason

[Sodo]

Hole.....
what about removing the starter and look inside with a scope?

See something? Drop the trans.
Can’t see anything? Then gotta drop the trans.
Doesn’t look like there’s any way around dropping the trans.

EXCEPT. If it’s air in the line and can be bled. But how do you get air in the line? Underbars are off, driveline off..... but I’ve half a mind to try bleeding again.
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'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb

[Jake de Villiers]

I see that your family is acquainted with the correct way to hold and operate basic garage tools - well done, Dad!!!
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[E1]

Sodo, we've also driven out to that Beach, and through deep sand when a line of trailers blocked the wet hardpack "route" about 3.5 miles in right as the tide came in.

Perhaps a long shot, but is there any way that sand got in somewhere and jammed anything?

I've never had this apart and so may be way off, but just a thought. Not a great mechanic on the big stuff here, but do wonder if the sand route could be connected...

Good Luck!
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Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
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[Sodo]

[AZ Landshaper]

Good luck man. Ive been on many a road trip where the engine was pulled to fix this r that. At least your peeps smiled for the picture. Thats a good sign. You didnt think they were gonna rent a VW did ya?
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[E1]

Dang it Sodo, you were s'posed to lie and say I nailed it.

Hope you don't mind a little humah, better coping mechanism than beer and no bad after effects.

Thanks for keeping us all updated, you'll get there.

(Please start the Toyota afire when fixed to get even with the Cosmos)
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Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
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