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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:23 am    Post subject: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Hello all,

As I always loved reading build thread, I decided to take the time and document my journey here too.

A bit of background: I am a 30 years old french mechanical engineer living in Germany that felt in love with metal shaping. I always wanted a ghia and was already part of the local club as much as collecting everything I can about this car before getting one.

My first aircooled is a 62 ragtop bug I bought 4 years ago as a barn find and it is now enjoyed every day when there is no salt on the roads.

But back to this topic: I bought in September 2017 a 60 (sept 59) strato blue ghia here on the samba. Originally from Portland, Oregon but I bought it already imported. As the pictures were showing, it was in poor condition (and still is..) but I decided to save it. It will end up as a vintage/oldspeed restored ghia.

Here is a picture from the ad:

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And when it came home:

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I am of course already much further, and doings as much as I can (I’m a father of a young boy) to finish it for Hessisch Oldendorf 2021.

I will bring the thread up to the actual stand in the next days.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Welcome Antoine.

Sept '59 is quite a rare bird and although Strato blue is a great colour, not a stock one for a Ghia. Not trying to dissuade you from your choice but there is a great blue in the stock selection for the '60 Ghia Wink : https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/paintcodesghia.php

What are your intentions for the Vintage Speed angle? Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Hi John,

Thanks a lot! I know about all the one year only parts and I am slowly collecting them. I will put some more infos here. Very Happy

About the color: it's the original colour, L364, as confirmed by the birth certificate. Can also be seen as a 60 color on your link Wink

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The vintage speed is not fixed yet (only do I know that I dream about a sebring style exhaust), focus is first on the frame and body restoration.

Antoine


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

TRS63 wrote:
Hi John,

About the color: it's the original colour, L364, as confirmed by the birth certificate. Can also be seen as a 60 color on your link Wink

Antoine


Ha! Embarassed I didn't scroll down far enough to notice the Strato. I've always associated it as a Beetle colour...a friend had Strato '56. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

No problem at all Wink
So, after its arrival, I did a bit of disassembly and created some reinforcement to "replace" the doors:
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And then it was time to build a dolly and take off the body:

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Now you can enjoy the view on the terrible fiberglass pan riveted by the previous owner Shocked Evil or Very Mad

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Stay tuned! Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

You’re off to a good start.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Awesome, Welcome Antoine!!!! Can't wait to see what you do to this Ghia.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Allez Antoine on attend la suite. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Awesome project but a lot of work!!

I am excited to see the resurrection of that beauty...for me its some kind of a time travel...I was at the same point about two years ago but its worth it so "stay tuned" Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

1960 is the best of the high light models. Has lots of lowlight features, the bulkhead mat, lowlight style door panels, 36hp, crashbox, screw terminals on the earlier models...of course that's also. What makes them expensive to restore accurately.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Thanks to all of you!
Braukuche, I think the same, which is why I want to save this one! Embarassed
Ghia: je vais aussi faire des update côté français, promis!
Inchpincher61: I don't know where in Germany you are but if you come to Stuttgart, please "Komm vorbei" Wink

So, the next update Very Happy
I first decided to start on the frame, removing the undercoat:
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And then preparing to its opening as the fuel line was untight:
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Opened!
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Then it was time to change all the rusted lines and close it back..
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Of course with rust protection!
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Closed:
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And protected:
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Stay tuned Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Antoine, Your approach is very thorough. I think this already deserves a place in the stickies.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Thanks a lot Nicholas, that means a lot to me!
I am trying to do my best on it, doesn't want to do a show car but a (really) nice driver Wink

So, I have a bit of time for an update Very Happy

Now that the bottom was ready, time to turn the frame and do the same, clean and primed:
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And then I started to adjust the half pan:
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Used the future heater channel to adjust:
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And then after cleaning/primering the half pan, it was time to weld them:
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I also finished to clean/put in primer the back end:
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To be continued Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Good luck on a perhaps one of the more difficult ghias to build. Great progress. After looking at your start, its odd more dont just open up the tunnel like you did and de-rust and clean. It much more economical and a better way. Cheers! Keep it up!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Definitely a sticky, please Mr Moderator. The work on the tunnel deserves a sticky on its own.

Unbelievable detail and thoroughness.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot to me! I will of course continue to document it. I am also already a bit further, as soon as this thread is up to date it will be sadly slower on updates Embarassed
Well, as I am already here, I can also show you some of the parts I already found/bought Very Happy
I got myself some NOS front fender panels:
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The 60 only rear light backplate:
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The 60 only nose grill with their 3 screws:
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A NOS indicator switch:
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And 1 NOS and 1 good used chrom trim for the door, also a 60 only part:
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Of course, if any of you has a 60 only part (incl. the ones I already got) and wants to sell it, please send me a pm Smile

I will update more this weekend, stay tuned! Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

I can see we are going to learn a lot on this one. Smile
Did not know about 3 screw air intakes. Did know about the door trim. What makes the tail light holders 60 only?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
I can see we are going to learn a lot on this one. Smile
Did not know about 3 screw air intakes. Did know about the door trim. What makes the tail light holders 60 only?


They are not with connectors, the wiring is connected using screws Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

When I did my 60 it drove me nuts that I couldnt get the right scraper for it. Hopefully you have better luck.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone open the tunnel and replace the tubes and clean it out. most people just cut a flap and bend it back to access whatever is broken and then just bend it back sort of and leave it. Nice job!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

I thought spade connectors started later 62ish, wrong again. Crying or Very sad . 1960 last year for screw connectors. Well, said we were going to learn on this one Smile
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