Early model throw out bearing conversion

[rockin mike]

Anyone tried using a conversion kit to upgrade to late model throw out bearing

https://www.kustom1warehouse.net/Throw_out_bearing_conversion_kit_p/113141165bconv.htm

Looks like a good idea I'm having problems with the one I have now I'm getting ready to drop engine and replace it just wondering if anyone has tried this conversion ?? Or any thoughts??

[Cusser]

[rockin mike]

This is 3rd time went out repair shop has been working on it before now I'm going to do it myself this time, haven't dropped engine yet will know more after, betting something is wrong with bearing car shutters when push in clutch and gears grind and car pulls forward drives fine after clutch pedal released

[VOLKSWAGNUT]

^ Have to agree with Cusser .. the old release system works flawless with the proper good parts.

Better clips are out there.. I generally just mod the originals.

Ya may want to search ... Clutch Bowden Tube..


If the clutch shudders.. when engaging the clutch (releasing pedal to take off).. the Bowden tube is worn or improperly set up.
Clutch "shudder" severe enough can dislodge the release bearing from the shaft.. its generally the result.. not the root cause.

More advice.. check the clutch cable and the clutch cable tube.

If the cable is fraying and or the tube itself is loose from its welds..... mayhem ensues...

Engine and transaxle mounts too..




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[rockin mike]

Thanks guys it's been an on going problem since it first happen last year no more repair shops, going to dive in and fix myself so it will be done right I'll pull motor and acess the situation and go from there and thanks again for the info!!

[epayne611]

I bought that kit, it didn’t work out too well...ended up buying a properly welded arm from Rancho, and the RJE adapter:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1441973

Rocky can also sell you the seal. But if I had to do it again, I wouldn’t do it at all.

[rockin mike]

Thanks for heads up I was wondering about that conversion kit, I saw RJE adaptors they looked very well made was thinking going in that direction because I do want to convert my throw out bearing to the late model type I'll keep you posted on the work on the conversion

[rockin mike]

Got lazy today didn't do anything on the car yet I really wanted to get the engine pulled today dammit I'll shoot for tomorrow need to get it done so I can move on to the other projects around the house

[rockin mike]

Pulled engine today no smoking gun to account for all that shudder and pulling with pedal engaged wasn't able to get in hear at all at a stop thought throw out bearing would have been blown all up it's fine
Now I don't know what to do flywheel looks blued in spots like it burned disc is polished on the edge on flywheel side that where it's at

[Cusser]

[nelson845]

Make sure the shaft isn't moving side to side. I had a similar recurring problem and it turned out there was a bit of play on the shaft, causing the bearing to fall off the fork.

[rockin mike]

Going to replace everything, with a clutch kit (no throw out bearing conversion, not the problem) and going with lighten flywheel, after closer inspection the ring on the pressure plate was not even level, it was at an angle as if the thines were warped, so it is all going in the trash so sad it was all new parts replaced by a shop for me less than 1500 miles ago. Any tips on putting it all back together, someone mentioned end play at flywheel, I noticed a small gap at top of transmission bell housing and engine before disassembly, how critical is it for the engine to seat tight all the way around trans, bell housing? Just want to have to do it twice, just right
Thank guys

[rockin mike]

10-4 on the spring clips

[Tvättbjörn]

Dealing with it last night. I had the same issue with the noise you are talking about. Make sure your throw-out arms on the shaft are centered and have the same distance from the input shaft. I have two after-market throw-out shafts and both are just crap. Not only did the bushing not fit the shaft ( hole was too small ) The bearing was sitting 4 mm off center to the right. I had to bent the arms sideways to get the bearing centered. It looks like everybody is making just a copy a bad part from somebody else.