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Sofia74
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:08 pm Post subject: Should I have painted these? |
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Putting this in the KG forum since it’s about a KG Coupe, not about the painting.
We are painting our 1974 KG Coupe a two tone – Bernina Blue with a Cloud White roof. Just painted the backsides of doors etc along with small things like hinges. I painted the door catches (not sure if that’s the right word – see first photo).
My question is should I have painted those? I now see some cars with them not painted body color.
I don’t want to make this look like a cheap paint job. I could re-blast them. I will be rebuilding them with new plastic inserts so it shouldn’t look too bad.
Important to note this in not a factory correct restoration. We are making minor modifications to suit us so absolute originality is not a must. And it is very possible I am obsessing over something small. Its just that this is the time to make the change… Or just let it go?
Also below are the painted backsides of the doors and the painted roof.
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Should I have painted these? |
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It's your car to do as you want. Most people leave them stock, or zinc plate them like I did. I think the reason against painting them is after a while, opening and closing the doors causes the paint to eventually wear away, which looks worse, scratched and banged up.
Jeff
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Sofia74
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Should I have painted these? |
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Stock wasn't an option as a previous owner had painted over the whole unit including plastic inserts - see above about cheap paint job.
I'll consider the options. Thanks. I appreciate the input.
De oppresso liber.
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c21darrel
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Sofia74
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Should I have painted these? |
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I had media blasted them. I could do so again. What does new look like? Maybe I shouldn’t have painted the hinges either...
Huh.
I fear I am overthinking this... |
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djkeev
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c21darrel
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Era Vulgaris
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Should I have painted these? |
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Door hinges should be body color. If you see them not body color, it's because someone replaced the door hinges at some point after the car was painted.
Door strikers should be plated. I have a feeling you're going to scrape a lot of the paint off of them when installing the new inserts. I did a how-to on rebuilding the 67-74 door strikers a couple years ago (it's up in the stickies), and from the experience I had, I'd be willing to bet a fair amount of that paint will come off while you wrestle to get the new inserts in.
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Should I have painted these? |
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I agree with Era, and you should look at the sticky he has regarding rebuilding the strikers, He gave a great instructional guide that I and others followed, and I added my rebuild after zinc plating my strikers. You can see what they look like stock and re-plated.
Jeff
Thanks Matt as well for the shout out, you SF too?
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jeffrey8164
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Should I have painted these? |
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I concur. Painted hinges, plated strikes.
I’m sure you’ve already thought of this but make sure you retain some paint for touch ups. The simple act of attaching a fastener can and will damage the paint.
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Sofia74
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| Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Should I have painted these? |
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I did paint the hinges body color (picture below). And the striker plates. Not stressing too much about the striker plates. I could blast and replate. I’ll look into that. Good news is I have time. The car is not at home and I only get to it about once per month. I took off this week to go to the car and do some painting. A couple photos are below. Hopefully self-explanatory. Don’t have much time now…
Jeff – yes. 7th Group up to 2000 and then moved to FA52 supporting our friends in the community with research, development and testing.
Gotta love the polka dots!
Cloud white top on what will be a Bernina Blue car.
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djkeev
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| Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Should I have painted these? |
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While I undestand the time contraints you have to work around, I'd worry a tad that piecemeal painting your vehicle may end up as a quilt of many colors.
Sure, it may be all out of the same can and possibly mixed with the same hardener and thinner but changing gun settings, angle of spray, temperature, humidity, spray technique, etc can all affect what the paint looks like when dry..... especially if shooting metallics.
It may be a very minor color mismatch if it happens.
It would be best to paint piecemeal in the fenders, in the engine compartment, in the front trunk, dashboard, inside the doors, door jambs, headlights, etc, etc, etc. all of those places that a slight mismatch would not make a difference.
Then plan a multi-day stay and shoot the entire exterior in one swoop.
Dave
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Should I have painted these? |
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Awesome Matt...HOOOAH! 7th as well. I PM'd you
Jeff
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