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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:47 am    Post subject: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

After spending tons of $ and time looking for NOS rear seat handles that fall apart and a couple of repros. I just decided to put back what Mr Goodman the original owner had in place since back in the 60’s.


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Looks good!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

Did the repros break too?

The good used one on my '63 is intact but I don't pull on it with any force
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

They call me kitty soft paws. I don’t break anything. They all literally fell apart, the remaining pieces stuck on the seat back, broke into two when I unscrewed them. My garage is not that hot, most of all the rubber or plastic /vinyl components are still plyable.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

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They call me kitty soft paws. I don’t break anything. They all literally fell apart, the remaining pieces stuck on the seat back, broke into two when I unscrewed them. My garage is not that hot, most of all the rubber or plastic /vinyl components are still plyable.


Yup, I used an old original one until it broke, then I used a section of a seat belt back there. It stayed in place and was useful until I sold the car. As far as I know it's still on there doing it's job.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

ALLWAGONS wrote:
After spending tons of $ and time looking for NOS rear seat handles that fall apart and a couple of repros. I just decided to put back what Mr Goodman the original owner had in place since back in the 60’s.
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Similarly, I used a section of a tie-down strap.
It's held up since about 2007, and I don't anticipate it'll break anytime soon.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

BSQUARE wrote:
ALLWAGONS wrote:
After spending tons of $ and time looking for NOS rear seat handles that fall apart and a couple of repros. I just decided to put back what Mr Goodman the original owner had in place since back in the 60’s.
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Similarly, I used a section of a tie-down strap.
It's held up since about 2007, and I don't anticipate it'll break anytime soon.

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Very nice!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

I think I've snapped 3 or 4 NOS handles now. I stupidly yanked on the one I installed in my '63 Squareback a few weeks ago and there it went. The repro handles we made are better, I just haven't installed one yet.

The NOS handles we had are all gone and I would recommend they stay in your parts cabinet for display purposes only...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

squaretobehip wrote:
I think I've snapped 3 or 4 NOS handles now. I stupidly yanked on the one I installed in my '63 Squareback a few weeks ago and there it went. The repro handles we made are better, I just haven't installed one yet.

The NOS handles we had are all gone and I would recommend they stay in your parts cabinet for display purposes only...


Yeah, I don't know what kind of rubber they were originally made of, but it's not very durable with some age on them. By now they're display only things.
I just checked out the seat belt I put on my old Square back in 1998, and it's still fine and working good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

Bobnotch wrote:
Yeah, I don't know what kind of rubber they were originally made of, but it's not very durable with some age on them. By now they're display only things.


I think it's a combo of poor design, petrified rubber, and heavy seat backs that are awkward to lift in the down position. We did a lot of testing on the new handles, but I still recommend grabbing the seat back by the corner versus relying solely on the rubber handle.

We used to have boxes, and boxes of NOS handles. I have a picture somewhere of all of the boxes with 20 or so in each box. I thought they would be a lifetime supply 10 years ago...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

Here's a photo of a bunch of the rear seat grab handle boxes.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:46 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

Hi there if your stuck i cut the shape of the handle out of some thickish leather and dyied it black and had a small velcro tab to keep it down looked the part until i located a good one a few years later
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

3type3 wrote:
Hi there if your stuck i cut the shape of the handle out of some thickish leather and dyied it black and had a small velcro tab to keep it down looked the part until i located a good one a few years later


If the reply was for me, allwagons? Thank You. I will keep it in mind. For now, I will continue to use the canvas handle the original owner used.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

I ended up using one of those guitar case type handles. The ones that sit flat but can slide slightly outward. I believe Josh suggested it to me. Put it on Amazon, it works a treat.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

Mr. Norman! How are you doing Sir?

Glad to hear from you! How's the squareback?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Seat Handle Reply with quote

Hey Martin. Good to hear from you. Yeah I've been pretty quiet on here. I've done a few things with the squareback over the past couple of years, but I keep having transmission problems, The latest being that I installed yet another transmission, but had problems with clunking noises in third and fourth... I should update my thread, I suppose. I also bought an old 911, so a lot of my money has been tied up in collecting parts for that.
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