Cipica, VW 1303S from '74

[vamram]

Great pictures, so cool that your family is into the Bug!
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'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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[Lost69Convertible]

The flared fenders look very good on your Beetle.
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[tzepesh]

Thank you, the flared fenders were necessary due to the increased track using Porsche brakes. I like them mote than the inner widened ones, which I find disproportionate.
Nothing much happened, just painted the 6J front wheels and polished lips, but did not swap tires yet. It's cold. But I have a nice score, a Boxster spare wheel. I had a 7J Cookie for spare, which protruded too much out of the spare wheel well, so the whole trunk looked bad. This is 105/95/17, does not interfere with the brakes, fits well, and came with the aluminum jack and holder. I still have to throw out unnecesaary tools, but the trunk is muck vleaner now, and the carpet sits level.
A friend noticed it looks so much like Weltmeisters.

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'74 1303S, L98B Viperngrun (extra glitter), German Look
'64 1200, Sea Blue, under restoration

[H2OSB]

Because I'm weird, I found an early 912 wheel 15x4.5 for a spare. The outer is rusted through in places so I'm having it rebanded with a 3 inch wide band for a "temporary" tire. I'm running 185 65R 15s front and 205 60R 15s rear. I calculated the size temporary tire needed to be the approximate same rolling diameter. I can't remember the size off the top of my head, and I'm at work soI can't check.

This way I'll have a modern looking spare in the correct size with the 5x130 pcd. I will get it powder coated black when it's completed.

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[tzepesh]

I checked several variants, the steel spares from older 911s was one of the option. I can easily find them with the "space saver tire", however they are very expensive. From size point of view, I am reluctant to 15", simply because it was a pain you know where to install a set over the large Brembo calipers. Width is usually fine on space savers, 155 or 165. There are other options from 928 or newer 911s, 16" aluminum. Same PCD is on several SUVs, like VW Touareg and the Porsche Cayenne, but the spares are large, usually 195 wide.
From diameter point of view, this 986 wheel (105/95/17) is actually very close to the original 155/82/15, and not too far away from the 185/65/15 and 195/65/15 I have on the car. Anyway it is for emergency use only.
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'74 1303S, L98B Viperngrun (extra glitter), German Look
'64 1200, Sea Blue, under restoration

[H2OSB]

I really like 15 inch wheels on Beetles...nothing wrong with larger diameter, just my preference. Anyway, I planned my brakes for 15 inch wheels.

My original plan was to run the 15x4.5 wheel as my spare, but upon close inspection, I thought it looked like the band might be rusted through in places. I took the wheel to be sand blasted, but was told the chrome would need to be removed first. Ultimately, it turned out the band was rusted through in multiple locations. Fortunately, the center section is in good nick. Luckily for me, I live near a nationally know wheel restorer called Stockton Wheel. I was just going to have them reband the wheels with a 4.5 in wide band, but then I got the idea to use a 3 inch wide band like a temp spare. I don't remember how I located my temp tire source...I THINK it came from some Volvo and was found on Ebay. Not overly expensive. Perhaps $100 shipped

If I were smart, which I'm not, I'd have just used one of my 944 steel spares(I have 5) but I wanted something narrow to take up minimal spa e in the trunk.

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[boxer74]

Subscribed. Nice thread. Enjoyed it since I also have a 74 super and similar aged family.
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Radu

They are 15x5.5 and ET30(I believe). I'll confirm today when I get home from work. They take 912 chrome hubcaps. The come with the same collapsible tire as the red alloy spares have. I have an extra one. I will sell it to you for $20(yes, twenty) more than the shipping to you. Only to you, if you're interested. Otherwise I'm going to hang onto it.

I think I have a pic of one with one of my 912 hubcaps installed but I need to load it onto the Samba.

My lunch break is over. More in a bit.
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[H2OSB]

Correction. The steel wheels are 15x5.5, ET42

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[tzepesh]

Yes, they look nice, similar to the originals. I've followed a restoration topic of a czech guy, he used same wheels. Do the VW hub caps fit?
For my car, I like more the Porsche aluminum, it gives it a more aggressive, German Look. The idea to have a set of steelies was in case things start to go down and I might have to register it as historic vehicle. Here the certificate is given by a private club who want only original cars (at least to look), as came out of the factory. Or the modifications have to be older than 30 years.
I have to borrow a wheel fron a friend and test fit it. I am curious if it clears the Brembos on front.
So than you for the offer, but I have to pass for the moment, even if it is waaaay too good. Right now I am spending all cents restoring my wife's 64, and just the bare necessities for mine.
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'74 1303S, L98B Viperngrun (extra glitter), German Look
'64 1200, Sea Blue, under restoration

[H2OSB]

No, unfortunately VW hub caps do not fit. Porsche 944s never had any hub caps for these wheels, but if you look closely at my pics without the hub cap you can see cleats. I took a chance and bought the set of well used 912 caps(because the wheel shaped looked very similar to me). Turns out they fit perfectly

I agree about Porsche alloy wheels. I have a set of 15x6 original Phone Dials I intends to run as my daily wheels, and a set of the 15x5.5 red alloy spares I will use for autocross tires. I like the steel wheels with hub caps for more of an Outlaw look, however they're pretty heavy.
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[tzepesh]

Outlaw look, yes.
If I think of it, I am quite a wheel nut: 2x 6J15 Cookies, 5x 7J15 Cookies, 2x 7J 15 ET 51 Phonies, 4x 7J15 ET 23 Phonies, 1x 16J Phonie, 1x 7J15 ET 36 Phonie (these last two are on the grill), the new 17" spare, plus a set of original steels. And these are only for my car.
5x wide five steels for wife's 64, one is dated 2/53.
2x sets for the Dacias
2x 14", plus 1x 12" from the caravan (now it has the correct 13" wheels) - must get rid of them
4x 7J15 Exip wheels with Ford PCD that came with the "new" body when I restored the Bug - I will make some tables out of them

And I would live to have a set of Rivieras and a set of ATS Classic just for the looks, and a set of Porsche steels for the reason above.

Phonies= Porsche Phone Dials.
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'74 1303S, L98B Viperngrun (extra glitter), German Look
'64 1200, Sea Blue, under restoration

[H2OSB]

My wife would be....very angry with me, if I had all those wheels. I would love a set of, shoot, I can't think of the name. The wheels that look like a burner top. Nevertheless, I can't justify another set of wheels since I only have one car. For a while, I had two cars. Perhaps then.

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[Maddel]

Here's how I fixed the spare wheel issue: home made 4" wide, 5x130 Porsche lug pattern spare wheel...

https://www.aircooledaddiction.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3496#p3496

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[Maddel]

[tzepesh]

Nice work, Maddel! I think I wouldn't have the skills to align the center properly to the barrel, unless I had a lathe. So you had the the same issue I did, with even thinner wheel.
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'74 1303S, L98B Viperngrun (extra glitter), German Look
'64 1200, Sea Blue, under restoration