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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3039 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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JAL78 wrote: |
Its really refreshing to see a correctly restored Ghia in one of the best colors. The results on BAT were pretty high for a coupe. I would have relisted it on BAT to get the best price. Hopefully it will do well on this resale. |
Hmmm...Question: Why are they using Lisa's original pictures from her BAT listing. It could be called lazy but I'd call it the habits of a scammer.
His EBay feedback is (2). |
Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd! _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13960 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Marcdeb wrote: |
Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd! |
Scammers will have lots of these "username" IDs and leave them dormant for years and occasionally add their own feedback using another of their IDs.
Get one of our El Paso members like John (calexican) to ask if they can view the car.
Personally I wouldn't bid a penny on a listing like that. _________________ John.
Judson Supercharger Information on The Samba
My 1958 Shorrock Supercharged Karmann Ghia
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3039 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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John Moxon wrote: |
Marcdeb wrote: |
Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd! |
Scammers will have lots of these "username" IDs and leave them dormant for years and occasionally add their own feedback using another of their IDs.
Get one of our El Paso members like John (calexican) to ask if they can view the car.
Personally I wouldn't bid a penny on a listing like that. |
I sent the Ebay seller a request for actual mileage now and what service has been done to the car since Dec 2022 when it sold on BAT. That should either get a legit reply, no reply, or some bogus answers?? Should be interesting. _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 11005
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Ironically another black Ghia coupe just came up on BAT as this conversation ensued. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3039 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Marcdeb wrote: |
John Moxon wrote: |
Marcdeb wrote: |
Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd! |
Scammers will have lots of these "username" IDs and leave them dormant for years and occasionally add their own feedback using another of their IDs.
Get one of our El Paso members like John (calexican) to ask if they can view the car.
Personally I wouldn't bid a penny on a listing like that. |
I sent the Ebay seller a request for actual mileage now and what service has been done to the car since Dec 2022 when it sold on BAT. That should either get a legit reply, no reply, or some bogus answers?? Should be interesting. |
No reply. Auction has been ended. _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13960 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:29 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Marcdeb wrote: |
Marcdeb wrote: |
John Moxon wrote: |
Marcdeb wrote: |
Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd! |
Scammers will have lots of these "username" IDs and leave them dormant for years and occasionally add their own feedback using another of their IDs.
Get one of our El Paso members like John (calexican) to ask if they can view the car.
Personally I wouldn't bid a penny on a listing like that. |
I sent the Ebay seller a request for actual mileage now and what service has been done to the car since Dec 2022 when it sold on BAT. That should either get a legit reply, no reply, or some bogus answers?? Should be interesting. |
No reply. Auction has been ended. |
The other clue was he's listed as a "dealer" but that was the only listing from the time he joined in 2019. Not much of a dealer. Might be interesting to follow his username to see if he uses it again. I doubt it as he obviously knows he's been identified as a scammer. _________________ John.
Judson Supercharger Information on The Samba
My 1958 Shorrock Supercharged Karmann Ghia
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery! |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3039 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:14 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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John Moxon wrote: |
Marcdeb wrote: |
Marcdeb wrote: |
John Moxon wrote: |
Marcdeb wrote: |
Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd! |
Scammers will have lots of these "username" IDs and leave them dormant for years and occasionally add their own feedback using another of their IDs.
Get one of our El Paso members like John (calexican) to ask if they can view the car.
Personally I wouldn't bid a penny on a listing like that. |
I sent the Ebay seller a request for actual mileage now and what service has been done to the car since Dec 2022 when it sold on BAT. That should either get a legit reply, no reply, or some bogus answers?? Should be interesting. |
No reply. Auction has been ended. |
The other clue was he's listed as a "dealer" but that was the only listing from the time he joined in 2019. Not much of a dealer. Might be interesting to follow his username to see if he uses it again. I doubt it as he obviously knows he's been identified as a scammer. |
Oddly, the listing says "Auction ended due to no longer available" ??? Maybe the seller will be updated as a closed account at some point?? _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13960 Location: Southampton U.K.
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69834 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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John Moxon wrote: |
Marcdeb wrote: |
Oddly, the listing says "Auction ended due to no longer available" ??? Maybe the seller will be updated as a closed account at some point?? |
Not sure if EBay would ever admit to letting a fraudulent listing get that far so they use another generic term to explain the withdrawal. |
I've seen that message when the seller kills the auction, usually because they got an offer outside eBay to sell but now the link is totally dead:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126318414454
This is what I have seen when other scam ads were totally pulled
It's also what comes up when the ad rolls off eBay due to age. _________________ How to Post Photos
Everett Barnes - [email protected] | My wanted ads
"Water is the only drink for a wise man" | "Communication prevents complaints"
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3039 Location: Vermont
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 11005
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Thanks for posting the link Marc. No one is driving this one so it needs to go to someone who will. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3039 Location: Vermont
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 11005
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Marcdeb wrote: |
This should do really well but no reserve would make me nervous. It's absolutely beautiful. It must really turn heads when you take it out. |
They would only give me a $20k reserve so I figured I have nothing to lose, unless of course it sells for only $19k!
People like it for sure, the color jumps out. Car drives so nice too. The next owner will love it, it’s a nice dialed in car. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3039 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Braukuche wrote: |
Marcdeb wrote: |
This should do really well but no reserve would make me nervous. It's absolutely beautiful. It must really turn heads when you take it out. |
They would only give me a $20k reserve so I figured I have nothing to lose, unless of course it sells for only $19k!
People like it for sure, the color jumps out. Car drives so nice too. The next owner will love it, it’s a nice dialed in car. |
I'm sure it will far exceed $20k. It easily worth more than double that. _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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Era Vulgaris Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1683 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Braukuche wrote: |
Car drives so nice too. The next owner will love it, it’s a nice dialed in car. |
I mentioned it in the auction, but in that freeway on ramp video I'd swear you had a larger displacement engine with how quick it looks. Makes me look forward to driving the same 1600dp and 4.12 trans combo I have in my car. I've only driven a 1600 with the 3.88. _________________ Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 11005
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Era Vulgaris wrote: |
Braukuche wrote: |
Car drives so nice too. The next owner will love it, it’s a nice dialed in car. |
I mentioned it in the auction, but in that freeway on ramp video I'd swear you had a larger displacement engine with how quick it looks. Makes me look forward to driving the same 1600dp and 4.12 trans combo I have in my car. I've only driven a 1600 with the 3.88. |
Thanks for pointing that out.
A 1600 DP is a torquey beast with a 4:12. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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kent70ghia Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2020 Posts: 176 Location: Tacoma, WA
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Help me out, in picture 95 there is a white pipe or hose. I have an original 70 coupe and I don't have anything like it. What's it for?
Braukuche wrote: |
Era Vulgaris wrote: |
Braukuche wrote: |
Car drives so nice too. The next owner will love it, it’s a nice dialed in car. |
I mentioned it in the auction, but in that freeway on ramp video I'd swear you had a larger displacement engine with how quick it looks. Makes me look forward to driving the same 1600dp and 4.12 trans combo I have in my car. I've only driven a 1600 with the 3.88. |
Thanks for pointing that out.
A 1600 DP is a torquey beast with a 4:12. |
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Era Vulgaris Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1683 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:48 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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kent70ghia wrote: |
Help me out, in picture 95 there is a white pipe or hose. I have an original 70 coupe and I don't have anything like it. What's it for?
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Crotch coolers! _________________ Currently own:
66 Karmann Ghia, L390 Gulf Blue, under construction, here: www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=760505&highlight=
99 Mazda MX-5 10AE, Sapphire Blue Mica, 6 speed, LSD
Previously owned:
98 Porsche Boxster, silver, 2.5L -- 67 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1500sp -- 98 BMW Z3, Atlanta Blue Metallic, 2.8L I6 -- 75 Porsche 914, Laguna Blue, 2270cc -- 72 Porsche 914, Signal Orange, 1.7 FI -- 74 Karmann Ghia, Black, 1600dp -- 74 Triumph TR6 with O.D., sapphire blue |
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c23roo Samba Member
Joined: July 26, 2020 Posts: 2 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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Braukuche wrote: |
Thanks for posting the link Marc. No one is driving this one so it needs to go to someone who will. |
omg she's back!
*insert dicaprio wolf of wall street biting fist gif*
so pretty - and the build thread is amazing. |
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 11005
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions |
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c23roo wrote: |
Braukuche wrote: |
Thanks for posting the link Marc. No one is driving this one so it needs to go to someone who will. |
omg she's back!
*insert dicaprio wolf of wall street biting fist gif*
so pretty - and the build thread is amazing. |
Thanks. Though at least one idiot thinks it’s a “corner cutting” restoration. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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