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augustwillo Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2018 Posts: 80 Location: Albany, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:23 pm Post subject: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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Hey all, I was poking around and found this simple, but random switch under my intrument cluster. It has one wire going to ground, another going to my fuse panel, and another that seems to go towards the front of my vanagon (maybe headlights?).
It was switched off, but lights up when switched on. However, can't figure out what is for. Any idea? |
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augustwillo Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2018 Posts: 80 Location: Albany, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instru Cluster |
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| If you look at the photo, just above you will see some marks on the dash that indicates maybe where someone wanted to put this switch. I did not put those marks there, but ironically discovered them after I took the image. Weird. ha |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10524 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instru Cluster |
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Does the switch have 3 wires? _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
(VW Gas I4)
1988 Westy DIY 50º ABA
VE7TBN |
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augustwillo Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2018 Posts: 80 Location: Albany, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instru Cluster |
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| Vanagon Nut wrote: |
| Does the switch have 3 wires? |
Yes! |
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ajdenette Samba Member

Joined: February 15, 2009 Posts: 768 Location: Hope Valley RI
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instru Cluster |
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the ground wire is for the light in the switch the switch lighting up when you turn it on says there is power from the fuse box. Unfortunately being an aftermarket switch and a common one we cant tel you exactly what is it for but we can tell you that when switched on you have a hot wire going somewhere and you need to trace the wire to know what it goes to. _________________ 1985 2wd Westy with 2000 Subaru 2.2 current driver
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=685635
1986 Syncro Doka Project next in line
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=732777
1990 Vanagon Syncro Base awaiting body work |
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Ahwahnee Samba Member

Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 10305 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instru Cluster |
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Omega 13 Device?
| augustwillo wrote: |
| ...and another that seems to go towards the front of my vanagon... |
Following that wire will answer the question that no one here can. Pulling the dash cluster cover, the glove box &/or the ashtray will let you get a couple of peeks. |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10524 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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It's possible the PO took positive from the load side of a stock fuse but if not, make sure there's a fuse installed on the circuit the switch controls.
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
(VW Gas I4)
1988 Westy DIY 50º ABA
VE7TBN |
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jimf909 Samba Member

Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 8273 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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1 - Be grateful the PO did not hack the dash for the switch.
2 - Follow the (positive) wire leading away from the switch, it will tell you what the switch was intended to power. It could be anything: seat heaters, aux. lights, disco ball, any one of countless unfinished PO projects, etc. _________________ - Jim
| Butcher wrote: |
| This is the main fault with DIY'ers, they get together on these forums and pat themselves on their backs spreading bad information. |
Guilty as charged.
Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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physast Samba Member

Joined: December 30, 2005 Posts: 675 Location: DC
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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If you turn it on with the car off and keys out does the radio turn on? _________________ 1967 L633 VW beetle (currently being restored...slowly)
1991 Orly Blue Vanaru 2.5L |
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Bills85Westy Samba Member

Joined: August 01, 2009 Posts: 428 Location: Napa CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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| physast wrote: |
| If you turn it on with the car off and keys out does the radio turn on? |
This was my guess too. _________________ 89 Tristar Syncro Doka - White
85 Westfalia Syncro (conversion)
SAH 1.8T Conversion - 2005 AWP
Engine Conversion Thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=612144&highlight=
85 Doka L345 Grey - 1.9L |
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campism Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 4717 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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Fuel pump cutoff for anti-theft? _________________ '87 Westy in Wolfram Grey Metallic, tragically crushed by a falling hickory tree in my own driveway and now gone, leaving me Vanagonless and with no plans to replace it, alas. |
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bobbyblack  Samba Member

Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4709 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:17 am Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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My PO rigged something like that to kick in the High Speed radiator fan. Maybe your wire goes out the firewall to the front? _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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augustwillo Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2018 Posts: 80 Location: Albany, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:50 am Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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| bobbyblack wrote: |
| My PO rigged something like that to kick in the High Speed radiator fan. Maybe your wire goes out the firewall to the front? |
It does go out the firewall. I was thinking the same thing, but nothing kicks on when I turn it on. |
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augustwillo Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2018 Posts: 80 Location: Albany, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:50 am Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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| campism wrote: |
| Fuel pump cutoff for anti-theft? |
ahhh... interesting. May try to turn it on and see if I can start it or not. |
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Silverghost500 Samba Member

Joined: August 01, 2018 Posts: 1198 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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Could be an aux switch for fog lights if you've got them. _________________ 1986 Volkswagen Vanagon Westfalia "Von Westy"
Honda K24A conversion
3-Speed Automatic
Von Westy YouTube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhyZYxJEQrUuLnMbLleeIA |
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jimf909 Samba Member

Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 8273 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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My guess is that you'll soon learn this switch powers the inverted system quick-response flux capacitor. A simple fix. _________________ - Jim
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| This is the main fault with DIY'ers, they get together on these forums and pat themselves on their backs spreading bad information. |
Guilty as charged.
Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:10 am Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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| My flux capacitor failed and it is a simple fix. It's in the Bentley 97.248 |
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will5023 Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2019 Posts: 28 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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Mine has a switch that manually engages the A/C clutch plate. Maybe this? _________________ Will
'85 Westy w/ '99 Subaru EJ25D
Orig. manual now automatic |
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danfromsyr Samba Member

Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15411 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:21 am Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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it powers the bumper to keep pigeons off and cats from peeing on it.
seriously I really can't understand why you would even think we'd know..
now bring something back that we can help with, like where does this key with a VW logo go?  |
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eug_camper Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2014 Posts: 50 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Random Switch under Instrument Cluster |
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Yep, random switch for random accessory. What's the part number? Nine digits? Bet it's not good VW engineering.
Our Westy had a similar random switch to turn on an extra radiator blower. Very much not necessary in our case. _________________ '87 white Vanagon "Moonshine"
'85 gold Westy "Lucy" |
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