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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:09 am    Post subject: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

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The annoying pushrod tube juggle gets a lot easier when you go find your drumsticks, stick one down the first pushrod tube you place, then the remainder go lickety-split. Thanks, Buddy Rich!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

I wish we had a "LIKE" button great idea but now I have to buy some drum sticks.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

Some here that will just look at the picture and not read your post, they will be assuming thats the new lightweight pushrod set, cause saving 2 ounces will gain 10 horsepower Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

I just use a deep socket that fits.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

I never had a problem lining them up.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

Bu-dum tish...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

your going to have some serious thick shims for those pushrods.now the only thing missing is the rimshot!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

Iíve always just used to pushrods themselves especially when building an engine in the upright position. This holds everything in the correct position as you line up the seams and get ready to tighten. Not shown any manual it was shown to me 25 or 30 years ago by the old man building engines.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

Was waiting for a rimshot, was not disappointed!
Actually, any excuse to make a reference to Buddy Rich, I'm gonna use it.

Also, I never seem to have the pushrods nearby when at the head-setting stage, typically I don't install them until I've spun the motor up for oil pressure.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

&Dan wrote:
Was waiting for a rimshot, was not disappointed!
Actually, any excuse to make a reference to Buddy Rich, I'm gonna use it.

Also, I never seem to have the pushrods nearby when at the head-setting stage, typically I don't install them until I've spun the motor up for oil pressure.


I was thinking about drummers and thought of Gene Krupa and then this popped up😀 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gene+krupa+buddy+rich+drum+battle+
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

I don't get what the drum sticks are doing? What's the juggle? Don't they pretty much just fall into place, like you can simply feel when they are seated into the lifter cups?

What does this help with?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

neat trick. It can be a pain sometimes.

The windage pushrod tubes are easier because the case end does not want to fall out.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

Zundfolge1432 wrote:

I was thinking about drummers and thought of Gene Krupa and then this popped up😀 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gene+krupa+buddy+rich+drum+battle+


Right? Man were those guys good, and they knew it.

modok wrote:
neat trick. It can be a pain sometimes.

The windage pushrod tubes are easier because the case end does not want to fall out.


For me it's a pain all the time, tubes falling on the floor, exasperating. Never been good at it.
T4s and Corvairs excepted.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

I just use the pushrods to hang them tubes all together while I introduce the heads on the cylinders. AFter the seals are in place in their holes you can remove the pushrods. SErve like 12th hands on there.

Those drumsticks look silly - Laughing

Anyone else have used a sledgehammer to build engines? I find no use for a larger hammer building engines. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

All the time.

Who has 10+ different kinds of hammers?
master craftsman.
The more hammers they have probably the higher the skill.
Or possibly a hammer collector, or an idiot, but probably not.

The first tool you learn to use, but you will never master it.
"Just need a bigger hammer"......is probably wrong, but it's also sometimes right:lol:
Rubber hammers, wood, brass, lead, long and skinny, big and fat, flat face, radius, dead blows, and all combinations of the above, in every size.
If your bigger hammer is not working, probably using it wrong, or it's not the right kind of hammer for the job. Or maybe the wrong operator.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

modok wrote:
neat trick. It can be a pain sometimes.

The windage pushrod tubes are easier because the case end does not want to fall out.


LOL! No wonder I didn't understand this as I'm building my engine with the windage tubes. They stand up straight by themselves. Now I get it...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

I looked and the second thing I thought is "Must have big balls! He's building that in the kitchen!"
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

Dougy Dee wrote:
I looked and the second thing I thought is "Must have big balls! He's building that in the kitchen!"


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Only as a matter of course...

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Those drumsticks look silly - Laughing


Thanks for weighing in.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

There is probably 1000 different ways to do this and other tasks when building engines. Standard procedures are in manuals but much of what needs to be done is not. From time to time someone will share an idea or technique and I really appreciate that.

As for building indoors I canít think of anything better. I kept a clean engine case on a dresser in our bedroom, and wife didnít care. Since the house is climate controlled itís ideal for storing things you donít want to rust or corrode. This engine has been on the shelf for over twenty years is all standard. All the parts are there too.

The transaxle is swing but uses a later IRS case, look at the TO bearing, has 3.88 RP Iíve just not had occasion to use it. Stored inside itís holding up well

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: Wish I'd Discovered This A few Engines Ago. Reply with quote

And yes I see the white stuff on tranny case. Needs a wipe down and hit it with Gibbs.
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