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i_am_cool_fred Samba Member

Joined: June 26, 2004 Posts: 1743 Location: Benton, AR
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: Sea Blue(L 360)/Blue White(L 289) fest |
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i'm in the process of buying a bus, and just looked at and transcribed the m-code plate.
it's a 1965 standard 11 window
with paint/interior code 121783
which is Seablue base, blue white top, and mesh gray interior
every pic i see in the gallery of blue white is just white, no blue tint to it. is that how the blue white looked??? cause in the vw bus paint chart section on this wonderful website it definately looks as if it has blue in it, yet there are no busses linked to it.
color for reference:
i wanna see pics
thank you, have a nice day _________________ proud owner of a defunct 1979 sunroof kombi
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KWZ Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Here's my og paint sea blue/blue white '65. Trust me, if you hold a white piece of paper up the the bus you can really see the blue tint.
_________________ '57 sunroof Standard
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 53130 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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i_am_cool_fred Samba Member

Joined: June 26, 2004 Posts: 1743 Location: Benton, AR
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:53 am Post subject: |
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because those all appear to be sea blue/columus white
i want blue white, evidently blue white is different, and i wanted to see what the difference was.
edit:
this is really the only one in that thread that i can tell has a blue tint to the blue white:
_________________ proud owner of a defunct 1979 sunroof kombi
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Ragtop Samba Member

Joined: November 23, 2003 Posts: 638 Location: Rio Rancho New Mexico
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| i_am_cool_fred wrote: |
because those all appear to be sea blue/columus white
i want blue white, evidently blue white is different, and i wanted to see what the difference was.
edit:
this is really the only one in that thread that i can tell has a blue tint to the blue white:
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That's my bus and just for a little clarification L 289 (17 or BLW) blue white does not have a blue tint it actually looks like mint green until the sea blue changes the accent of the color. Trust me on this one as when we painted the inside we freaked out on the color until I matched it to the M-code plate . Here's a link to the bus being painted and built
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_id=1984866452&start=0
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=195010&highlight=window |
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roamer  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Sea Blue(L 360)/Blue White(L 289) fest |
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| i_am_cool_fred wrote: |
every pic i see in the gallery of blue white is just white, no blue tint to it. is that how the blue white looked??? cause in the vw bus paint chart section on this wonderful website it definately looks as if it has blue in it, yet there are no busses linked to it.
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There are a lot of shades of white that all look "just white" under a lot of conditions or without some context to compare against. VW's Blue White has a subtle blue tint, but under most conditions you'd just see it as being "white", especially in pictures where the white is overexposed (which is common). I like the color as paired with Sea Blue, it gives a softer look than a more pure white does.
You can't go by the online color charts, those are usually just approximations, but you can still find original color charts with paint chips (granted, over 40 years old with who knows how much fading...). In those charts, the different whites look dramatically different, but outdoors, painted on a bus with another main color, it's harder to judge what you're looking at and you'd usually just call them "white".
All photos you'll see are subject to the lighting conditions at the time, color adjustments applied by the camera or film+scanner and any subsequent processing, rendering by your web browser and your computer monitor, all of which allow for a huge range of variation. |
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i_am_cool_fred Samba Member

Joined: June 26, 2004 Posts: 1743 Location: Benton, AR
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:00 am Post subject: |
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i understand pics, high white content, saturation, contrast, rgb web vs. cmyk printed pic, and monitor differences, it's my profession.
i was just curious if it was a noticeable difference, which it is very very subtle, and the pic above does show it and show how subtle it is. guess my question was answered, sorry if i appear to be an idiot, but i did search both the gallery, and the forums for blue white and i just really couldn't tell it being different from columus white (i know i'm misspelling that) and i was curious as to whether or not it is a noticeable difference hence the start of this thread. it is a noticeable difference IF you know what to look for. my question has been asnwered, lets just kill this thread and move on to the whose bus has the closest resemblance to sealing wax red or, the one i really like (cause it happened to a friend) who got the RIGHT anthracite mixture (not the purple tinted one), or which dove blue is correct. all these paints have there variations throughout the years and all are mixed way different than the factory even mixed them, which is why i asked the question is it a noticeable light blue? i was thinking something like this:
and thought, oh, i kinda like that color combo, but it justt doesn't quite look right based on the representation that is on the sight and it isn't exactly a blue/white looking color so i'll ask fellow sambanistas if they have pics of there L289 painted bus to compare it to.
thanks for the few pics that were posted.  _________________ proud owner of a defunct 1979 sunroof kombi
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Ragtop Samba Member

Joined: November 23, 2003 Posts: 638 Location: Rio Rancho New Mexico
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i_am_cool_fred Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: |
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the pic and link of your build actually helped out a lot, it's a definate noticeable difference, just takes a bit of trick with the camera obviously, this isn't blue/white(this is the one i'm getting):
a pic of the m-code plate revealed it had been resprayed at one time, and correct paint is showing through a chipped spot. which means, i got a lot of work ahead of me if i want it back blue white  _________________ proud owner of a defunct 1979 sunroof kombi
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71807 Location: Phoenix 602
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DanM Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| EverettB wrote: |
| Different color but Beige Grey looks a lot more white in the bright sunlight too, but here's a photo in my garage against a piece of paper |
Yeah... I just took a pic of snow on my TR/BG bus because I was shocked at how noticeable the BG was next to the snow. |
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cdennisg Samba Member

Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20956 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Here's a blue/white 65 that has original paint. The first picture almost shows you the greenish tint. The bus had been in a barn for 14 years and was covered with dust. I don't have a pic handy of the paint after it wash washed, sorry.
Blue white is a surprising color. When paired next to velvet green, it looks very green, but the same paint against sea blue, appears more blue. When it's old and sun faded, it tends to look more like just white. _________________ Confusious say it takes it takes two wipes to know you need three, but it takes three wipes to know it only needed two. |
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sled Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Blue white is a surprising color. When paired next to velvet green, it looks very green, but the same paint against sea blue, appears more blue. When it's old and sun faded, it tends to look more like just white. |
probably because the blue white was sprayed over the green and over the sea blue. White paints always show a little of the color underneath, especially darker colors. _________________ drive your split. |
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Clara  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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The various light colors may all look like 'white', but if you have a collection of overhead vent plates of various whites, right next to each other, it is really clear that the whites are not all the same.
Blue white has a tint of blue or green to it, and is a cool white.
Cumulous white is warmer.
Pearl white is warmer than cumoulous white.
Beige grey has more red in it.
I saw a 65 sea blue/ blue white dormy westy at a show a few years ago. Here is a pic before it got a wash or buffed out.
The angle of the pic really helps wash out the color:
When I got this bus it had a pair of chaulky doveblue cargo doors.
Here I had washed the bus and replaced the rear cargo door with a cumulous white/sea blue cargo door.
The white on the rear cargo door is warmer than the white on the bus.
Later found a pair of sea blue/ bw cargo doors. Also spent some time buffing the paint on this westy. Removing the chaukiness from the white reveals more of the tint.
Check out the difference between the bw nose and the silver white emblem.
the bus on the left is og paint SWR/ BG. the beige grey is not the same as bluewhite.
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auslander Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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OG Sea Blue/ Blue White with a OG color respray
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dkmullen Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2010 Posts: 141 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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The white snow in this picture shows how blue blauweiss can be!
_________________ Desmond Mullen
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dkmullen Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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A related question: What "flavor" of white are the bumpers and wheels supposed to be? I believe mine has OG paint all around and the bumpers and wheels look more like a plain or standard white. I'm tempted to respray the bumpers and maybe the wheels. _________________ Desmond Mullen
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cdennisg Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| dkmullen wrote: |
| A related question: What "flavor" of white are the bumpers and wheels supposed to be? I believe mine has OG paint all around and the bumpers and wheels look more like a plain or standard white. I'm tempted to respray the bumpers and maybe the wheels. |
Silverwhite. _________________ Confusious say it takes it takes two wipes to know you need three, but it takes three wipes to know it only needed two. |
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kafer60 Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: blue white |
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Take a look at my thread
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=428796&highlight=
You will see the color decal is there and if you look at the nose after cleaing the og blue white is there. _________________ Can't polish a turd!
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JimJonkers Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| My sea blue/blue white decal got shot in the blasting process...is there anywhere i can buy a replica? |
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