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Bulli Klinik
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Those shitty scooters began polluting the streets of Colorado Springs a couple of years ago. They take up space on the sidewalks that they aren't supposed to be used on. The City/taxpayer sees no compensation for having those turds on the street. They are randomly and regularly abandoned. I personally know several folks who have hurt themselves on them and I'm sure that is just the tip of the iceberg. Best of all, the little green turds are picked up and brought back for repairs/recharge by what must be a sub-contractor in a smokey, old American, full-sized truck.
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Dusty1
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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Katie Britt Fundie Baby voices …
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What if we made our EVs reissue Bugs?
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Abscate
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:57 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| Bulli Klinik wrote: |
| Those shitty scooters began polluting the streets of Colorado Springs a couple of years ago. They take up space on the sidewalks that they aren't supposed to be used on. The City/taxpayer sees no compensation for having those turds on the street. They are randomly and regularly abandoned. I personally know several folks who have hurt themselves on them and I'm sure that is just the tip of the iceberg. Best of all, the little green turds are picked up and brought back for repairs/recharge by what must be a sub-contractor in a smokey, old American, full-sized truck. |
In NYC you get $100 for each sidewalk scooter you hit with a bat.
Problem solved
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| Abscate wrote: |
| Bulli Klinik wrote: |
| Those shitty scooters began polluting the streets of Colorado Springs a couple of years ago. They take up space on the sidewalks that they aren't supposed to be used on. The City/taxpayer sees no compensation for having those turds on the street. They are randomly and regularly abandoned. I personally know several folks who have hurt themselves on them and I'm sure that is just the tip of the iceberg. Best of all, the little green turds are picked up and brought back for repairs/recharge by what must be a sub-contractor in a smokey, old American, full-sized truck. |
In NYC you get $100 for each sidewalk scooter you hit with a bat.
Problem solved |
And you get fined $200 for being a douche bag walking with a baseball bat in NYC. Not sure what the fine is walking in NYC with a bat though 
Maybe I should ask Harvey Dent.
We pay the sheriff department to fish those dumb scooters out of the local rivers. Not so environmentally friendly and cost taxpayers money.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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A recent study led by the University of Technology Sydney (UTS) has found that humans might inhale approximately 16.2 bits of microplastics each hour, or the equivalent of a credit card per week.
and the fish are getting tired of pollution
https://www.thedrive.com/news/tire-dust-makes-up-t...utm_medium
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heimlich
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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I wonder what kind of magnetic fields EV's produce.
You know all those people scared to go under those large power lines. I wonder if any of them own an EV.
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Dusty1
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I wonder what kind of magnetic fields EV's produce.
You know all those people scared to go under those large power lines. I wonder if any of them own an EV. |
I could tell you a thing or two about magnetic fields. I'm not worried. Consider this: Our planet is one big- ass magnet.
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Abscate
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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I wonder what kind of magnetic fields EV's produce.
You know all those people scared to go under those large power lines. I wonder if any of them own an EV. |
I could tell you a thing or two about magnetic fields. I'm not worried. Consider this: Our planet is one big- ass magnet.
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It is certainly bipolar at times
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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It is certainly bipolar at times |
Does your daughter know about your online pimp daddy life?
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Xevin
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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It is certainly bipolar at times |
Does your daughter know about your online pimp daddy life? |
I can confirm the answer is yes!! She pulls the strings.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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A piece in the news yesterday. One third of the world's data centers are I. Loudon County VA.....and the increasing rate of sever farms/data centers especially with the computing requirements of AI are consuming electrical power at a rate faster than we will soon have the ability to produce it.....made especially problematic because to lare of a portion of power is being produced by wind and solar with a poor stability and reliability.
The usage in just Virginia two years ago was 21% of all power produced in that region. They are putting off shutting down coal plants because of the draw which will double in just a few years.
I tried to find the exact article but there are many if you just Google it.
You may have to make a choice between your EV or your AI.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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I tried to find the exact article but there are many if you just Google it.
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Can we just have the AI google it for us? Maybe they can drive our EV too.
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A piece in the news yesterday. One third of the world's data centers are I. Loudon County VA.....and the increasing rate of sever farms/data centers especially with the computing requirements of AI are consuming electrical power at a rate faster than we will soon have the ability to produce it.....made especially problematic because to lare of a portion of power is being produced by wind and solar with a poor stability and reliability.
The usage in just Virginia two years ago was 21% of all power produced in that region. They are putting off shutting down coal plants because of the draw which will double in just a few years.
I tried to find the exact article but there are many if you just Google it.
You may have to make a choice between your EV or your AI.
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What happens to all the water used in those Data Centers? Where does it come from? Is it recycled and used again? Probably more eco friendly then making paper. Right?
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finster
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:42 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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is there a non-subscription version?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:06 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| raygreenwood wrote: |
A piece in the news yesterday. One third of the world's data centers are I. Loudon County VA.....and the increasing rate of sever farms/data centers especially with the computing requirements of AI are consuming electrical power at a rate faster than we will soon have the ability to produce it.....made especially problematic because to lare of a portion of power is being produced by wind and solar with a poor stability and reliability.
The usage in just Virginia two years ago was 21% of all power produced in that region. They are putting off shutting down coal plants because of the draw which will double in just a few years.
I tried to find the exact article but there are many if you just Google it.
You may have to make a choice between your EV or your AI.
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What happens to all the water used in those Data Centers? Where does it come from? Is it recycled and used again? Probably more eco friendly then making paper. Right? |
That's interesting.
I had not thought about data centers using water. I figured it was just massive amounts of AC.
But yeah it makes sense because systems that big will need heat exchangers and cooling towers like big buildings. However, I figured it would just be big banks of power gobbling heat pumps.
A couple of articles:
https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-water-usage-ai-iowa-data-center-1850826419#:~:text=That's%20almost%201.7%20billion%20gallons,those%20computers%20can%20shut%20down.
https://dgtlinfra.com/data-center-water-usage/#:~:...intenance.
The interesting thing is that with a little more investment when they build a data center, a water treatment facility "should" be able to make them largely closed loop.
Relevant to EV'S? Yes I think so because it goes toward the question of where the charging EV'S will get all that power once they become seriously mandated and also because as stated and as I have recently seen....I have been in Phoenix for 3 weeks.....we already see movement/R&D toward making a portion....if not a large portion....of EV'S, self driving.
I have seen quite a few of the "Waymo" cars around here. If perfected.....they will replace virtually all Ubers and cabs ....and next will be short haul delivery vehicles....not to mention those who will use their EV'S in self drive while they bang the maid in the back seat. All of that will use AI (lots of power hungry computing) as well as needing to charge.
As I keep saying.....the range is a problem. That's one thing. But the biggest thing with EV'S is going to be power generation and distribution. Ray |
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a salt and battery news from scotland...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd180263w7no
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A piece in the news yesterday. One third of the world's data centers are I. Loudon County VA.....and the increasing rate of sever farms/data centers especially with the computing requirements of AI are consuming electrical power at a rate faster than we will soon have the ability to produce it.....made especially problematic because to lare of a portion of power is being produced by wind and solar with a poor stability and reliability.
The usage in just Virginia two years ago was 21% of all power produced in that region. They are putting off shutting down coal plants because of the draw which will double in just a few years.
I tried to find the exact article but there are many if you just Google it.
You may have to make a choice between your EV or your AI.
Ray |
Like I said there is enough coal under Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Kentucky to last 200 years.
If we can make our filthy internal combustion engines run clean and we've done that already... we can make coal fired generating plants run clean, too.
If I tried suicide by the classic running car in a closed garage trick my Prius wouldn't even give me a headache.
Coal ash doesn't pose anywhere near the hazard of spent uranium.
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I tried to find the exact article but there are many if you just Google it.
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Can we just have the AI google it for us? Maybe they can drive our EV too. |
When the AI decides we're a nuisance it will hog all the electricity for itself. It will wait for us to get into our autonomous cars. It will have itself a big ol' demo derby.
Then again, AI will be so busy hoarding BitCoin it won't even know we're here.
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Xevin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Electric vehicles are bad |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| raygreenwood wrote: |
A piece in the news yesterday. One third of the world's data centers are I. Loudon County VA.....and the increasing rate of sever farms/data centers especially with the computing requirements of AI are consuming electrical power at a rate faster than we will soon have the ability to produce it.....made especially problematic because to lare of a portion of power is being produced by wind and solar with a poor stability and reliability.
The usage in just Virginia two years ago was 21% of all power produced in that region. They are putting off shutting down coal plants because of the draw which will double in just a few years.
I tried to find the exact article but there are many if you just Google it.
You may have to make a choice between your EV or your AI.
Ray |
What happens to all the water used in those Data Centers? Where does it come from? Is it recycled and used again? Probably more eco friendly then making paper. Right? |
That's interesting.
I had not thought about data centers using water. I figured it was just massive amounts of AC.
But yeah it makes sense because systems that big will need heat exchangers and cooling towers like big buildings. However, I figured it would just be big banks of power gobbling heat pumps.
A couple of articles:
https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-water-usage-ai-iowa-data-center-1850826419#:~:text=That's%20almost%201.7%20billion%20gallons,those%20computers%20can%20shut%20down.
https://dgtlinfra.com/data-center-water-usage/#:~:...intenance.
The interesting thing is that with a little more investment when they build a data center, a water treatment facility "should" be able to make them largely closed loop.
Relevant to EV'S? Yes I think so because it goes toward the question of where the charging EV'S will get all that power once they become seriously mandated and also because as stated and as I have recently seen....I have been in Phoenix for 3 weeks.....we already see movement/R&D toward making a portion....if not a large portion....of EV'S, self driving.
I have seen quite a few of the "Waymo" cars around here. If perfected.....they will replace virtually all Ubers and cabs ....and next will be short haul delivery vehicles....not to mention those who will use their EV'S in self drive while they bang the maid in the back seat. All of that will use AI (lots of power hungry computing) as well as needing to charge.
As I keep saying.....the range is a problem. That's one thing. But the biggest thing with EV'S is going to be power generation and distribution. Ray |
Thanks for posting those articles Ray. My paper comment is sarcasm. Paper bag or plastic bag? EV or ICE? Reusable bag or Mass transit?
I don’t have a problem with EV cars in moderation. I actually recommended an EV to my sister when her 7 year old Mercedes needed $25,000 of work. It’s perfect for her driving habits.
I do have a problem with government mandates and special interest groups outlawing the sale of ICE cars half-cocked.
I understand the pro EV car guy bragging about the cost to run his car. I also understand history. Hopefully the cost of electricity remains the same for ever. But then “Hope” is not a strategy 
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