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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:18 am    Post subject: EarlyLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

I purchased this 1968 bus back in July from a good friend of mine, and brought her home in October after we moved. I have finally gotten around to creating a project post. My plan is to go through almost everything on this bus. I won't be able to do everything myself due to time mainly, and skills when it comes to body and paint, but I do plan on spending what it takes to make it right!

Here she is the day I bought her!


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And the day she came home!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

Engine and transaxle were pulled and set off to some local old school guys! Going up to 1776cc with dual carbs!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

Pulled the gas tank and it looks really good inside! I'll still do a treatment on it though. I might also put in a new sending unit since it's out. not sure of the condition of the old one, as I never did drive this thing. Any thoughts on that?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

On to the rear brakes and axle. got all new parts ordered. I had to remove one of the bearing housings due to a stuck shock mount bolt. Had to put it on a 20 ton press and then persuade it with a torch. this thing was STUCK! I'll probably just pull the other side too so I can clean them both up and paint.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

what's the door date on this?

from what i can see, you have 68 door handles, 69 and up wipers and a gas tank firewall which early 68's didn't have

looks like a solid bus
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

You'll probably have to date it with the M plate, 68's have a different door sticker, like below:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

Lots of grime but I'm thinking you have a 1968 transmission with the acorn nuts. If so I don't believe it's rebuildable. If that's the case and it works you can clean it up and sell it for $400 or so and buy the 1969/1970 tranny outright somewhere. Send the original fuel sender to Telford Dorr who can rebuild it. Much better than buying new. Send the tank to a radiator shop to be boiled out. Don't use any products like POR15

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

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Lots of grime but I'm thinking you have a 1968 transmission with the acorn nuts. If so I don't believe it's rebuildable. If that's the case and it works you can clean it up and sell it for $400 or so and buy the 1969/1970 tranny outright somewhere. Send the original fuel sender to Telford Dorr who can rebuild it. Much better than buying new. Send the tank to a radiator shop to be boiled out. Don't use any products like POR15

Nice bus.


If the ring and pinion is good it can be updated to the 002 case with the threaded collars. if the ring and pinion is bad it is junk and only good to rob some parts from.

And yes nice bus!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

That is a very pretty bus. Congratulations Very Happy

Don't be afraid of the torch. I love the tool and reach right for it at first sign of resistance. Mapp gas (yellow bottle) is the ticket, it burns hot. Get that nut or bolt red hot, you will see the rust combusting like little bright flakes. My daughter knows chemistry and she informed me the combustion actually burns the rust away. Much less chance of breaking off and often times threads are clean when it rotates out. I rotate it while it's still really freaking hot.

Wow, I do love that color blue.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

aeromech wrote:
Lots of grime but I'm thinking you have a 1968 transmission with the acorn nuts. If so I don't believe it's rebuildable. If that's the case and it works you can clean it up and sell it for $400 or so and buy the 1969/1970 tranny outright somewhere. Send the original fuel sender to Telford Dorr who can rebuild it. Much better than buying new. Send the tank to a radiator shop to be boiled out. Don't use any products like POR15

Nice bus.


Thank you! I'll be sending the tank to a shop, and I've emailed Telford Dorr. Thanks for the advice!

I'll wait to see what the old boys say about the trans, supposed to hear from them hopefully by June! Lot's of work to do in the meantime!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

Alright, need help decoding this! I looked in the technical section but still can't figure it out! Embarassed To me it seems the VIN number should start with 218 and not 228?

It's got the early 68 brakes (according to the bently manual), but it has a firewall. It had 68 door handles but the original paint and interior seem to be only available in 69 according to the technical section here on the Samba. Someone had commented that the trans seems to be a 68. It doesn't have the 68 wipers, but those would have been easy to swap.

Any help greatly appreciated!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

OK I got it now! the second "2" in the VIN is the model type, in this case a microbus?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: EaryLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

EarlyLoaf wrote:
Alright, need help decoding this! I looked in the technical section but still can't figure it out! Embarassed To me it seems the VIN number should start with 218 and not 228?
218 would be a panel, which we generally didn't get in the US.

228 would be a passenger bus as are most campers converted in US (like Sportsmobile or Adventurewagon) bc they began life as passenger busses. The 8 of course denotes 68 (or 7Cool.

Westy's began life as combis and are 23x.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/modelstype2.php

Not that just the first two numbers are on the VIN. The full model, like 281, 221 or whatever will be on the M plate.

That is a very sweet bus.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: EarlyLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

The painted plate behind the LF seat offers much more information.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: EarlyLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
The painted plate behind the LF seat offers much more information.


Yes, I'm an idiot LOL. Finally got it figured out!

Produced in May 1968!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: EarlyLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

Looking for suggestions on cleaning up/paining the suspension and underneath here. What’s the best way to get rid of the dirt, oil, grime, rust, etc? Does it come down to some good old fashioned manual labor? I’ve started with purple power, and a wire brush lol. I’ll probably bead blast and paint the bearing housings and brake backings since they’re out anyway. I was thinking about using POR15. Let me know what you all think!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: EarlyLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

I used POR-15 on my undercarriage 20+ years ago and it appears to be holding up well. I used the marine clean + metal ready stuff that POR-15 sells (followed instructions to the T). I ended up using a half face respirator and safety glasses as I was under the bus b/c of close quarters (VOCs from the paint) and drips in the face. Good luck with it all - keep up the good work!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: EarlyLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

Ry-dog wrote:
I used POR-15 on my undercarriage 20+ years ago and it appears to be holding up well. I used the marine clean + metal ready stuff that POR-15 sells (followed instructions to the T). I ended up using a half face respirator and safety glasses as I was under the bus b/c of close quarters (VOCs from the paint) and drips in the face. Good luck with it all - keep up the good work!


Thanks for the input! How did the cleaner do? Still lots of scraping? I'll probably go ahead and order the kit and give it a try.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: EarlyLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

POR-15 is shit these days. look lit up, it comes off by the sheet.

I would soak the hell out of everything with Super Clean. Not purple power, not grape Kool-Aid real Super clean. Hit it with a pressure washer. Heated pressure washer is better if you have one.

i've done this a few times

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:28 pm    Post subject: Re: EarlyLoaf's 68 Bus Project Post Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
POR-15 is shit these days. look lit up, it comes off by the sheet.

I would soak the hell out of everything with Super Clean. Not purple power, not grape Kool-Aid real Super clean. Hit it with a pressure washer. Heated pressure washer is better if you have one.

i've done this a few times


I was thinking about pressure washer. I'd have to set up some curtains and a trough system or something as it's in my garage lol.
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