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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:22 am    Post subject: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

I drove the 1957 Deluxe on the freeway for the first time last Sunday. I managed to get it up to 55MPH, even without a sunroof. When I got to my destination, I noticed some drips of transmission fluid on the ground. At the time, I assumed I had a loose axle boot or somesuch, so I figured I'd look when I got home.

When I got home, I put the bus on the lift and started to investigate; it's not really clear where the fluid is coming from - it's like a 90wt grenade went off under the bus. It does seem to be coming from the left (driver's) side, toward the front. The fluid level was down slightly, but not much. All of the plugs were tight. It seems my only option at this point is to clean everything up and try again.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

With no obvious seam leaks, it's a mystery! Maybe a missing ball/spring plug? Did it spurt out a vent hole?

Also, side issue... that clutch cable bend looks to be trouble soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

Seems like a pressure build up, then spurted out. You can check the vent hole above the nose cone with a piece of wire under the bus. Id clean it up and see if it reoccurs
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

Is that section between nose and shift rod phenolic, or metal? Never seen an older tranny up close before. Neat.

If a (formerly-plugged) vent isn't the cause, a crack that only opens up when hot or under torque load, or a seal with similar issues? That much spray is a lot even if a seam lets loose under load, so I'd say chrisflstf is on the right track; maybe paint or greasy dirt (or an insect nest) blocked a vent until pressure built and blew it out. If so, another test drive should be drama free.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

Knew a fellow who had the same gear oil fountain from the vent hole in the nose cone. Ended up having to replace the nose cone to fix that.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

This is a rebuilt trans with a new nose cone, so there shouldn't be any old cruft in there.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:45 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

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It seems there's too much pressure and no relief until there is. If all transmissions routinely held enough pressure to spray like that, that would be common on here; the fact it isn't means too much pressure is building and not being vented properly. Or too much pressure until something failed.

So you either have an issue with overpressure from internals (too hot?), which sounds expensive, or you have an issue with pressure not getting relieved before it's a problem. Could be a bad vent, could be a blown seal.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

I wouldn’t be too quick to dismiss the nose cone vent. I can see quite a bit of excess gasket goo on the nose cone mating surface. That can easily clog the vent
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

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There isn't any pressure inside a transaxle, just a tiny bit of expansion and contraction when the gear oil heats up. Before anybody ask an off-road racer once reported they never saw above 160* gear oil temps inside the transaxle.
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It is usually the guys who like to use bathtub caulking that apply way too much sealant. Then when the nose cone is tightened down, the excess caulking squishes out, blocking the vent hole.
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Check the vent hole and hope that's it. Other stuff gets expensive.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

I check vents by sticking a larger piece of fuel hose (1/2"?) into the fill hole, blowing on it with my mouth, spraying Windex onto the vent hole looking for bubbles. It takes two people but it only takes 10 seconds once you fit the hose using a small piece of towel to seal it to the hole.

Brake clean it all off, road test and look again. If you're a tech guru, get a UV dye light and some UV dye and check it that way. $10 on Ebay.

That clutch cable Bowden is looking for trouble.......

Good Luck!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2025 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

Saw a "pic through the split window" post - how about a "pic over the tranny" one to see if problem is back?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting transmission leak Reply with quote

Ok, a quick follow up. I did a cursory cleanup = just wiped it all down, didn't use any sort of degreaser or solvent. I thought the fluid level was low, evaluated by sticking my finger in the fill hole, so I added some LiquiMoly that I'd got at the car show. I checked again a few days later, and it had sprayed some more - the LiquiMoly sprayed all over was the tell, although it didn't have as much splatter as the first time. I cleaned that up and drove some more - without trying to top it up. I'm not seeing any more sprayage. I think what happened was a combination of over-filling the trans and the vent being partially plugged.
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