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silversync Samba Member

Joined: September 01, 2005 Posts: 183 Location: San Pasqual Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 9:07 am Post subject: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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"Wear and tear on engine components is common because of friction and it happens in all machinery with moving parts. Lubricants that reduce friction can only delay and minimize inevitable damage. The idea of reversing that wear by fixing a worn part was a goal of Pavlo “Pasha” Rudenko, a Washington State University Ph.D. candidate who decided to research the use of smart nanoparticles to replace eroded material. "
https://www.techbriefs.com/component/content/article/tb/pub/features/nasa-spinoff/37452
"The material, also called nano-flakes, is sticky on one side and smooth on the other. The sticky side is attracted to points of friction and attaches itself to those spots, leaving the smooth side facing out. This happens over and over, building up layers of nanoparticles until a given rough spot is smoothed over, much like filling in a pothole in a street. The heat and pressure that naturally occur with friction bond the nano-flakes together, forming a new, durable carbon-lattice surface that Rudenko calls “diamond-like.”"
My ancient 2.1 WBX will need something before too long. What do you folks think about this? _________________ Roland: '89 Syncro, '02 911 C4S, '10 Audi A4 Avant |
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RBEmerson Samba Member

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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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I hear there'll be free beer tomorrow, too....
Repeat after me, "entropy will not be denied, entropy will not be denied, entropy will not be denied..." _________________ Lord, give me coffee to change the things I can change, and wine to accept the things I can't change. |
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tjet Samba Member

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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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zerotofifty Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2003 Posts: 1031
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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Wear is not only low spots, or pits. But also scuffs that give raised spots. _________________ Give peace a chance. No American war with Russia! |
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 3365 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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Project Farm....I remember watching that Video some months ago. I didn't even know Slick 50 cans were still around when I started watching it... Short but fun video....  _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
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Franklinstower Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2006 Posts: 1843 Location: PNW
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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RBEmerson wrote: |
I hear there'll be free beer tomorrow, too....
Repeat after me, "entropy will not be denied, entropy will not be denied, entropy will not be denied..." |
I don't think that is the "claim" from TriboTex. Any new technology that can reduce wear is welcomed. Nanotechnologies, quantum mechanics is relatively new. I am not going to call this snake oil just yet.
At least this stuff has some real names behind it: NASA, Dept. of Energy, U.S. Air Force, Dept of Defense, National Science Foundation.
https://www.tribotex.com/
I would believe in the benefits before I discard it as snake oil like Slick50. Now if someone comes up with Free Beer....
Edit, further research found this:
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Its definitely snake oil as spoken by that dude exuding his intelligence. _________________ '89 Westy - EJ25/22 Frank 4.44 5mt
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DanHoug Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4358 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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i love this! back in the day some of you might remember the "miracle pills" JC Whitney marketed as engine rebuilders. one red sudafed sized pill per cylinder put in thru the spark plug hole, sold in packs of 8 of course, to magically restore compression, oil pressure, and gas mileage. all for $13.95. i think i even bought a set when i was 15. that and the VX6 battery restorative additive. pink tubes of boric acid i assume. bought those too! anything to save actually doing some work.
fast forward 50 years and history repeats itself. bless their hearts for keeping history alive. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 75637 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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DanHoug wrote: |
back in the day some of you might remember... |
Sorry, aircooled only.
_________________ Glenn
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Tobias Duncan Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2013 Posts: 1367 Location: Taos NM
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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Franklinstower wrote: |
RBEmerson wrote: |
I hear there'll be free beer tomorrow, too....
Repeat after me, "entropy will not be denied, entropy will not be denied, entropy will not be denied..." |
I don't think that is the "claim" from TriboTex. Any new technology that can reduce wear is welcomed. Nanotechnologies, quantum mechanics is relatively new. I am not going to call this snake oil just yet.
At least this stuff has some real names behind it: NASA, Dept. of Energy, U.S. Air Force, Dept of Defense, National Science Foundation.
https://www.tribotex.com/
I would believe in the benefits before I discard it as snake oil like Slick50. Now if someone comes up with Free Beer....
Edit, further research found this:
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Its definitely snake oil as spoken by that dude exuding his intelligence. |
I am pretty sure Slick50 used to claim it was developed by NASA.
There was also that insulative paint you could buy about 15 years ago that was developed by NASA. Claimed to be R14 in just one coat. I dont think they are still in business.
When you see NASA on the label it might as well say snake oil. NASA never ever signs off on this stuff. They take a odd piece of tech that NASA developed for some special task and then they totally misuse it |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 75637 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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Tobias Duncan wrote: |
When you see NASA on the label it might as well say snake oil. NASA never ever signs off on this stuff. |
_________________ Glenn
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Tobias Duncan Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2013 Posts: 1367 Location: Taos NM
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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Glenn wrote: |
Tobias Duncan wrote: |
When you see NASA on the label it might as well say snake oil. NASA never ever signs off on this stuff. |
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And now we drink that product every day ! Can you imagine life without it?
My favorite flavor is Prune |
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zerotofifty Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2003 Posts: 1031
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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nasa has a whole department dedicate to listening to radio signals generated by aliens, and has scientists thinking global warming might be causing extremely cold winters.
Needs Another Seven Astronauts
They have done some cool stuff, and some very questionable stuff too.
The Tech Briefs they publish is simply about stuff that has been funded, a lot of snake oil included
So what happens when this micro rough surface rebuilder chemical fills in all the oil holding cylinder cross hatching marks, and makes the cylinder walls mirror smooth? Dont we call that problem cylinder glazing?
food for thought, kind of like space food sticks. _________________ Give peace a chance. No American war with Russia! |
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djkeev  Samba Moderator

Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 31638 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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MsTaboo Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 3957 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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Glenn wrote: |
Tobias Duncan wrote: |
When you see NASA on the label it might as well say snake oil. NASA never ever signs off on this stuff. |
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NASA did not endorse or invent TANG, it's was merely used on some flights because of it's ease of use.
The Omega watches were flight certified by NASA because they met very rigorous standards along with two other brands but everyone preferred the Omega Speedmasters. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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tjet Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3250 Location: CT-CA
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 4:25 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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That's a nice watch.
Fortis also had their version |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 21515 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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And now we drink that product every day ! Can you imagine life without it?
My favorite flavor is Prune |
We all see it.....we all see it...
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IdahoDoug Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10210 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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Interesting how the one side of the flake is slick, the other sticky. So when 1 flake settles into a depression and secures itself (statistically possible), it's then presenting its "slick" side to future flakes. They never explain how the next flake will stick to that.
Same with the PTFE oil additives and Slick 50. There is never an explanation of how this "super slick" stuff sticks to an oily bearing. I could see the product settling into low spots in theory, but for it to remain there against the hammering of engine operation and oil flow.... Seems like the cold oil startup would blow this loose debris in the depressions out every morning on cold start and then it would later resettle, etc.
Just never could wrap my brain around it. Also, like most gummint agencies, NASA provides tens of millions of dollars to little companies and startups as grants when they are working on various solutions whose success would help the NASA mission. Some of these work out, most do not. So the claim "NASA developed" is well off the mark. Often it just means they got some of their funding to try to develop something from NASA and has no relation to a performance claim. _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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Mateo83 Samba Member

Joined: September 14, 2021 Posts: 525 Location: Lodi, CA
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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Will it fix the notorious hot zones in my air-cooled cylinders too?! _________________ 83 Air-cooled 2.0 Tin Top
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 75637 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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Mateo83 wrote: |
Will it fix the notorious hot zones in my air-cooled cylinders too?! |
It will also fix "ED" and put some lead in your pencil. _________________ Glenn
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Nanotechnology Repairs Engine Damage in Cars |
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~20 years ago I tracked fuel economy over many fill-ups and over multiple oil changes while always filling up at the same fuel pump. With each oil change I alternated between oil WITH Slick50 and then the next oil change without, then back to Slick50, etc... I consistently got better fuel economy with the Slick50 than without. The difference ranged between 5% and 10% better with it than without. YMMV. |
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