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70bus  Samba Member

Joined: July 15, 2004 Posts: 1307 Location: P.O.
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:34 pm Post subject: Removing bed divots? |
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While the correct answer is ‘replace the metal,’ I am looking for other options on my bed, which has several spots hammered well below the plane of the bed. Any use pounding out from below? They don’t need to be flat, but better would be nice. Also, besides seam sealer, any suggestions for the seams? Weld them shut someday?
_________________ Craig K
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17809 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Removing bed divots? |
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you're never going to get the metal right by pounding it
it was stretched when the dents were made. pounding the dents out will further stretch the metal, and it will need to shrink some so it doesn't oil can
I would just replace the bed, which is what you don't seem to want to do. The only other way is to remove the bed floor and work it that way. doing it in place is a suicide mission imho
you can drill out and remove the bed and replace it faster than you could even fix one dent. _________________
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Eric&Barb Samba Member

Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 25868 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Removing bed divots? |
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Personally welded the seams shut. Only way to be pretty sure on a flat surface to seal it up.
When sheet metal is dented in like that, trying to hammer it up will not help. The very sheet metal has been stretched, as in longer from point "A" to "B" so no longer able to be a straight line. If you did hammer it up without any additional stretching from the hammering (definitely doubtful), you would have humps in the bed that would be equal to the dips you have now.
You really need to SHRINK the now stretched metal, but with corrugated metal like that it maybe hard to do. With fairly flat sheet metal using a shrinking disc has worked well for us. You might as well get one and try it out. There are two sizes, thinking that the bigger one might work better since it heat the areas faster, but you may still need the smaller sized disc at same time to get into the smaller areas. So two angle grinders would be needed to go back and forth quickly.
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70bus  Samba Member

Joined: July 15, 2004 Posts: 1307 Location: P.O.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Removing bed divots? |
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A combo of not wanting to replace the bed, and not having cash to do so! There are a number of things that could have been done when at the body shop, but cosmetics were axed by the budget.
I will try shrinking disks. And welding the seams eventually. Easiest is a bedliner but that seems wrong, even on a bed this beat. My main concern was standing water due to my local climate, but as I live on a hill I doubt it will be truly horizontal very often.
Dents will make installing bed slats an interesting process... _________________ Craig K
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17809 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Removing bed divots? |
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70bus wrote: |
I will try shrinking disks.. |
why? it's a 100% waste of time
they only work on smooth surfaces.
the only way to save what you have and not make a bigger mess is to 1) replace it or 2) remove it and work it by hand, feed it thru an english wheel etc to stretch/shrink it back into place
for 880 plus shipping I would go this route:
https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=261801400
just trying to save you from yourself. I mean you could literally have the whole bed like brand new in a day and 1/2 _________________
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli

Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 13286 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:26 am Post subject: Re: Removing bed divots? |
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Dude, you bought a work truck that got worked hard, probably when it was several years old & had no value. If that’s the worst of it, preserve it & consider it part of its history.
There is no “working that out”.
Treat it, paint it, & toss plywood over the top of it until you can afford to replace it. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it.
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70bus  Samba Member

Joined: July 15, 2004 Posts: 1307 Location: P.O.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Removing bed divots? |
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That's a possible option for the future... but assumes wallet, equipment and skills are up to it. Also space for the work. But I appreciate the advice on shrinking disks, and will just work with what I have for now.
I've got a router, so maybe I'll make the underside of the bed slats conform to the dents :) _________________ Craig K
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silkvw Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 461 Location: Elgin, TX
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Removing bed divots? |
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Your SC cleaned up real nice! Wish that I could drop by and see it.
I know it's hard to justify the cost of a new bed. Mine has been worked on, but is not perfect. Do your best and get out on the road! _________________ '64 single cab Big Bend Bus Bash 2015 '16
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70bus  Samba Member

Joined: July 15, 2004 Posts: 1307 Location: P.O.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Removing bed divots? |
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Thanks silkvw; when I picked it up, Jeff Gagnon (body man) said "I'd just drive it." Which I planned to do, but the tranny/rgbs, spindles, brakes, wiring etc etc needed rebuilding (not to mention a motor getting built), so I saved what money I could on the welding: just enough so it didn't break in half! I might do the bed at some point, especially if the seams are a big(ger) problem and start causing serious rust below. Meanwhile I might hit the bed with epoxy primer and some rattlecan two-part just to stop the rust a bit.
I love the variety of cars on here, from to-the-nuts resto to swiss cheese with a motor - and in-between ones like mine. I also really appreciate the folks who let me know when 'it's OG or don't bother' as it saves me a ton of wasted time, money and energy. Short-cuts that give me a few years to save pennies for OG are always welcome, though. _________________ Craig K
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zimblewinder Samba Member

Joined: January 22, 2004 Posts: 899 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:43 am Post subject: Re: Removing bed divots? |
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Back in PG era (Pre Gerson) I took out my 23 window floor and shrunk it down perfectly with a large shrinking disc. It was a pain in the butt and I had to work the dips from the top and the bottom but it did work really well. Check out the photos from my gallery at the time. The only other option back then was the WW funky red panels that were trash and I couldn't stomach having floors that were so far from the original profile.
Before
During - see the flat side vs the wobbly ribs still to go in the background
After - as you can see it's dead flat here.
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One to go
so as you can see it's doable. Would I do it again??? Hard to say as it is a bit of pride to say its the original floor (petty I know )
Dale _________________ 58Euro 23 343208 The Ultimate Zimblewinder Machine.
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