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0cean Samba Member

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PDXWesty Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon headlight switch posts |
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30 is usually the power coming in. 85 or 86 is typically grounded. Not sure on the headlight switch.
Is there a terminal 31 on your switch?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=440649&postorder=desc
I'm really no help.
What year is your van? You could look up the wiring diagram. _________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto |
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0cean Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon headlight switch posts |
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I don't have it in-front of me, yet I think there is a 31 on a terminal. The switch came out of 1987 van, yet my build does not have the harness, so im hard wiring into home made harness.
Bentley doesn't help because it identifies wire colors and not terminals from what i can see. _________________ I'm not a mechanic, I just play one on the internet
Cluster Rebuild:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569920&highlight=
Left for Dead the Resurrection Story Build:
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clamay Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon headlight switch posts/terminals |
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If I am reading Bentley correctly there is no ground wire coming from the headlight switch. Power goes to the switch at terminal 30 and goes out to the different lights and is grounded at the lights. _________________ 91 Carat, automatic, GW 2.2, GW EFI, Peloquin TBD
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0cean Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon headlight switch posts/terminals |
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| clamay wrote: |
| If I am reading Bentley correctly there is no ground wire coming from the headlight switch. Power goes to the switch at terminal 30 and goes out to the different lights and is grounded at the lights. |
I was wondering if that's a possibility. I've been looking like crazy and nothing is coming up. _________________ I'm not a mechanic, I just play one on the internet
Cluster Rebuild:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569920&highlight=
Left for Dead the Resurrection Story Build:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=613669
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0cean Samba Member

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Jan Steinman Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon headlight switch posts/terminals |
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| 0cean wrote: |
| clamay wrote: |
| If I am reading Bentley correctly there is no ground wire coming from the headlight switch. Power goes to the switch at terminal 30 and goes out to the different lights and is grounded at the lights. |
I was wondering if that's a possibility. I've been looking like crazy and nothing is coming up. |
That's normally how headlight switches work. And most other switches, too. A single-pole light switch in your house walls works like that, too!
The only reason there would be a ground there is if the switch itself was lighted. I don't recall the headlight switch in our 1982 being lighted. |
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PDXWesty Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon headlight switch posts/terminals |
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| Jan Steinman wrote: |
That's normally how headlight switches work. And most other switches, too. A single-pole light switch in your house walls works like that, too!
The only reason there would be a ground there is if the switch itself was lighted. I don't recall the headlight switch in our 1982 being lighted. |
The picture of the switch the OP posted has a hole for a for a light, so I assume it has a backlight in that model.
The vendors all show two types of switches depending on year. _________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto |
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Jan Steinman Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2022 Posts: 175 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon headlight switch posts/terminals |
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| PDXWesty wrote: |
| Jan Steinman wrote: |
| The only reason there would be a ground there is if the switch itself was lighted. |
The picture of the switch the OP posted has a hole for a for a light, so I assume it has a backlight in that model. |
Assuming that the lamp/socket assembly attaches to that hole, then there still wouldn't be a ground on the switch itself; the ground would be on the lamp-socket assembly, no? |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon headlight switch posts/terminals |
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| While there is a provision for a bulb they weren't illuminated. |
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do.dah Samba Member
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little blue bus Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:21 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon headlight switch posts/terminals |
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Hi great post and thanks for taking time to take photos and notate all of it.
Also in case anyone here needs the late model switch ending with letter T and not able to find it, there is an informative video by the guy at Vanagain showing how some of the parts can be exchanged with a switch with the M letter in the part number:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPH_DcYSRl4
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zerotofifty Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:57 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon headlight switch posts/terminals |
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If you can add a light to indicate it being on, then do it, a bright led is good. It should be bright so as to be seen readily even in bright direct sunlight.
This Van headlight design, a rocker switch is HORRIBLE in design and location, and color as it is not readily apparent if the switch is on or not. Contrast this to the push pull switch on the old VW Bugs, you know it is on or off easily.
This confusing switch can be improved with bright paint or a sticker, bright orange, or yellow is very good. (I found dark red does not contrast with dash well as orange or yellow) You want a bright color that contrasts greatly with the dash. I prefer a fluorescent orange sticker. Cut the sticker or paint such that the colored edge of the switch rocker is only visible when switch in ON. and hidden when switch is OFF. This should be on the edge that is on the right side of the rocker. The area of the sticker is roughly about 5/8" high, 3/16" wide, but cut to fit so it is hidden when the switch is off.
This coloring of the edge of the rocker has been a great help for me in not accidently leaving the lights on when parked, and without the annoyance of a headlight ON alarm buzzer. |
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