Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Premium Membership  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201
Forum Index -> Porsche - 356 Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
William Crowell
Samba Member


Joined: February 15, 2011
Posts: 91
Location: Placerville, CA
William Crowell is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:24 am    Post subject: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

My 1960 T5 coupe, body no. 110471, was originally painted state gray, and I want to repaint it the same color. I always thought this paint code was no. 6201, but the local (small town) auto paint supply store (the only one for miles around, so I can't afford to get them too P.O.'d at me!) says that number "doesn't come up in our system". This seems distinctly lame to me because I think Porsche has been using this exact color for the last 60 years or more, so I don't understand why this auto paint store is having such a hard time identifying it, but would anyone know of another, perhaps more recent, number for the slate gray paint that Porsche was using in 1960 that this paint store might recognize? Thanks, everyone.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
wagen19
Samba Member


Joined: November 16, 2007
Posts: 865
Location: germany
wagen19 is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

William Crowell wrote:
My 1960 T5 coupe, body no. 110471, was originally painted state gray, and I want to repaint it the same color. I always thought this paint code was no. 6201, but the local (small town) auto paint supply store (the only one for miles around, so I can't afford to get them too P.O.'d at me!) says that number "doesn't come up in our system". This seems distinctly lame to me because I think Porsche has been using this exact color for the last 60 years or more, so I don't understand why this auto paint store is having such a hard time identifying it, but would anyone know of another, perhaps more recent, number for the slate gray paint that Porsche was using in 1960 that this paint store might recognize? Thanks, everyone.

In my list for T5 models, slate gray has the Porsche code 6001 and Reutter code 741. For T6 models slate gray has code 6201 but still the same Reutter code 741. The C-models in slate gray had 6401, but Reutter code unknown. Hope that helps.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
Dubenhams
Samba Member


Joined: August 20, 2021
Posts: 11
Location: UK
Dubenhams is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

i found this site really useful (i was hunting autarium green)

same issue, the ingredients to the original porsche codes just don't exist (legally) any more, so technically you just cannot get the original code mixed


this site shows the alternative codes

for me autarium was originally a single stage gloss, you just cannot get it as single stage anymore (for the reasons above) so you need to get 2 stage base, then add clear

so for me the original porsche code was 5712, i had to get 6AU

https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?...um%20Green
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Dubenhams
Samba Member


Joined: August 20, 2021
Posts: 11
Location: UK
Dubenhams is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 2:49 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

slate grey link - enjoy
https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?...mp;rows=50
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
William Crowell
Samba Member


Joined: February 15, 2011
Posts: 91
Location: Placerville, CA
William Crowell is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice! I am inclined to just use PPG Omni urethane single-stage, even though they can't mix it from any recipe for old Porsche slate gray, because I think it's a high-quality paint and that's what the local paint shop sells. Not only would single-stage be more authentic for my car, but I have found it to be more durable than base/clear, even though the base/clear may be shinier. I think I am just going to choose a shade of gray that I like from PPG Omni paint chips and maybe have a little metallic added to it. I like that look. Nothing too crazy, though.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
William Crowell
Samba Member


Joined: February 15, 2011
Posts: 91
Location: Placerville, CA
William Crowell is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

Unfortunately it has come to my attention that I didn't know what I was talking about in my previous post, so please ignore it. I guess if I were to use a single state PPG product it would be their Concept "DCC". A local body shop that I respect likes to use Sikkens paint. It is not too easy to figure this paint stuff out.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
RolandD
Samba Member


Joined: January 15, 2017
Posts: 283
Location: Menomonee Falls, Wis
RolandD is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

Go to the Glasurit web site. They have a Reihergrau and Schiefergrau listed.

Schiefergrau translates to slate grey.

Roland
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
William Crowell
Samba Member


Joined: February 15, 2011
Posts: 91
Location: Placerville, CA
William Crowell is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:06 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

Thank you very much, Roland. I will try to do that.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
William Crowell
Samba Member


Joined: February 15, 2011
Posts: 91
Location: Placerville, CA
William Crowell is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

I did obtain the PPG formulation for "POR6201", "schiefergrau" or slate gray, in a single-stage urethane:


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


But so far I haven't been able to find a paint shop that will mix it for me from this recipe. They instead want to do a color match from an existing sample. I would like to get them to mix it from the recipe, and I don't have a color sample. Also, I think maybe the PPG paint would be water-based. I would like to have your opinions on these issues, please.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
RolandD
Samba Member


Joined: January 15, 2017
Posts: 283
Location: Menomonee Falls, Wis
RolandD is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

Per BASF website:

Industrial Finishes & Systems Inc
3590 Sunrise Blvd
Rancho Cordova, CA 95742-7323
+1 (916) 635-8831

is a dealer.

I painted a 72 Ghia BlutOrange in my garage, and had a proffecional painter say it turned out better then most of his, because it was Glasurit.

Roland
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
William Crowell
Samba Member


Joined: February 15, 2011
Posts: 91
Location: Placerville, CA
William Crowell is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

I guess the paint I will be using is PPG "DCC Concept" single-stage urethane. It is being discontinued, and at first my WESCO paint supplier in Sonora, CA (a 2-1/2 hour drive from here; can't buy it in this county) didn't have enough of some of the toners and was at first reluctant to order more. In the meantime I did call Industrial Finishes and Systems, Inc., as recommended by Roland above. They were very courteous and helpful and said they could mix the color for me, but my painter strongly recommended the DCC Concept over the brand sold by Industrial Finishes. Then God intervened; the WESCO dealer in Sonora somehow got the 356 religion; and he ordered the necessary toners. I should get the paint next week.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
livnlow
Samba Member


Joined: May 03, 2005
Posts: 57
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
livnlow is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 1960 Slate Gray, no. 6201 Reply with quote

I have been a professional painter for 30 years now and Vw/porsche enthusiast. I also have a slate grey 356. Knowing how important it is to really get these colors right, I would recommend using an original sample for reference. A lot of times old formulas being translated in modern paint really misses the mark.
_________________
1963 356B Coupe
1965 sundial
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Porsche - 356 All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2025, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.