Crashbox-Splitcase Selector Shaft differences? Cast numbers

[jborregoy2k]

We have a project from a while to assemble two crashboxes from a set of NOS internal parts we have collected, and two cases, one coming from a standard casting post 52 I guess and a 51 KD replacement case, that the guy that sold it to us in thesamba said came from a 51 Porsche (I can’t verify that).

We do not have a disassembled crashbox on hand to look for the correct parts to a match, but a set of different selector shafts that may be either for a crashbox or a split case tranny.

We sorted out the different models we have, but have no clue which one to use. Some has holes in different places, angles and so.

Here you find the pictures with the casting codes, that don’t match with the part # in the manuals we have. Thats the list from the Workshop manual

Selector Shaft 111307557 1st-2nd or 3 01 479a
Selector Shaft 111307567 3rd-4th or 3 01 487
Selector Shaft 111307577 reverse or 3 01 507

From low to top, then left (newer?) to right

11W A22291
11W A22291

11Q? 22299
11S 22299

11B? 577 or 377

77 11 pass thru hole
77 11 pass thru hole

11K 2227
11S 22279
11C 567

2225 11Q?
557 117?
2225 11K
557 117?
2225 11?
22259 11T

11 557A?
11 567A T

Anyone with info of how to identify the correct selectors to assemble the trans?

BTW, we are located in Medellin (Colombia, South America), so no cost-effective solution to ship the parts to be assembled from an expert in USA or Europe.

[wagen19]

With spare part numbers between 1950 and 1956 it´s not that easy. Nearly all numbers were changed, sometimes the parts theirselves changed too.

For me, helpful would be to know your goal. I assume, you want to restore a trans for a 51 Porsche inside a original style crashbox till 9´52.

The case on right side would be correct for 1951.
(if so, you could think also about a not visable upgrade of a more solid later diff)

Helpful to identify your two trans are date stamps, numbers and some literature.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/1952_bug_parts_book/1952_Beetle_Parts_book.pdf

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/1956%...201956.pdf

Also helpful is the VW "Leitfaden" 1949 - 51 and 1952 - 57

There are also different shift housings and inner shift levers.

I have some old 307 trans from different years on stock. I case of interest, you can Email me. If possible in german.

[jborregoy2k]

Thanks wagen19 for your answer and links.

We do want to assemble the two cases that we have, even thou there are is only one 1951 split car in Colombia (that we know), and no Standard beetles that we’ve seen ever. Only deluxes seem to be imported here in Colombia.

The standard crashbox case we have looks NOS, and we think was left as spare parts and never sold by the dealers here (who want a crashbox back then when you hace synchro trannys available?)

There were a bunch of Barndoors and comercial vehicles that came on the 50s, but again, almost all disappeared at a rate that as we know, only we have a Split Kabrio with one on it, and there is one or two split beetles that we know have it installed.

Using the NOS parts we have to have two spare crashboxes (even thou not date correct for our cars), is for the fun of assemble them.

We think if we find a good 52 dated case will be more interesting for one of our cars (52 Kabrio, 52 Barndoor Dropgate)

These are the pictures of the case castings

[jborregoy2k]

Anyone with the VW "Leitfaden" manual of 1949 - 51 ?

I checked the 51, 52, 56, 72 manuals an all have the same numbers not present in our parts

Selector Shaft 111 307 557 from 1956 manual, 113 309 507 from 1972 manual (split case) 1st-2nd or 3 01 479a from 1951/52 spare parts

Selector Shaft 111 307 567 from 1956 manual, 113 309 567 from 1972 manual (split case) 3rd-4th or 3 01 487 from 1951/52 spare parts

Selector Shaft 111307577 from 1956 manual, 113 309 577 from 1972 manual (split case) reverse or 3 01 507 from 1951/52 spare parts


Currently we discarted all the splitcase selector shafts and ended up with only one doubt with the Reverse shaft # and hole position of the fork

11W A22291 Reverse (left pair)
11W A22291 Reverse

11Q? 22299 Reverse (right pair)
11S 22299 Reverse

[wagen19]

[nlorntson]

Here's one resource that maybe could help?

http://zarwerks.com/45partsmanual/45partsmanual.htm

I think there's also a 1950 parts manual floating around this site. I'll see if I can find it.

[EverettB]

There's a '52 Part book here
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/1952_bug_parts_book.php
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