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68blackbird  Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: South Texas
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:16 pm Post subject: My first Beetle... |
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Picked up a '77 SB Convertible last week. As usual, after tearing into it, the more I dig, the more work I find. I've restored 7 or 8 old cars the past 15 years, so this isn't my first rodeo. A little research shows that the engine id from a 73/74 VW Bus? I know nothing about. Car runs, but a little rough. Plan is to go through fuel system, and rebuild carbs, looks like car has been sitting for awhile.
I'm sure I will have many questions moving forward, please feel free to comment or give advice...I'm gonna need it.
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Buggeee Samba Member

Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4996 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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It's not a beetle engine and does look like a type IV bus engine at first glance. I would be curious to see what type of transaxle is in there if it was mine, as some people have put bus transaxles in a beetle for off road.
It's a Super Beetle, which means the front suspension is McPherson struts rather than torsion beam with trailing arms. The front suspension is suitable for street use, but not as robust for off road. If you intend to trail ride it, there are things you can do to beef it up a bit and researching is a little more time consuming, but doable, as the baja super beetle is a narrow niche of an application for the model.
You could watch the Dust Buggy series on YouTube as that is one of the few well documented baja super beetle builds.
For the front, off the shelf reinforcement can be had by adding a strut tower brace. Rally springs are available from Topline, and others sometimes, for a little lift, and off-center lift bushings for the sway bar and control arms are available to correct for the geometry of a mild lift. For fabrication, there is bracing the frame head, gussetting the control arm mounts at the frame head, stronger brackets and bolts at the front of the sway bar, and adding strengthening material to the strut tubes.
The rear suspension is exactly like a regular beetle.
Have fun! _________________ Big Time 1988 Vanagon Westy
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68blackbird  Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: South Texas
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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Thanks for the reply...1st..."Stuck in Ohio"...lol, I get it. I left Ohio in '78, got stationed in Corpus Christi, TX, haven't really looked back.
I got the car up on the lift, took a few pics, may help with your trans question?
This car is going to strictly a street car, no off road.
Again, appreciate your input
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68blackbird  Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: South Texas
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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Was a busy weekend...body removed from chassis, many thanks to the Forum for the input and posts...Kel
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oprn Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 15203 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:05 am Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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"Oh Wow!"
That is as oddball as you can get and still be all VW! Not something I would drag home for sure but that is just me! In that configuration it is completely between all normal builds. It's not a true off road car, not a true on road car, definitely not a restoration... just someone's collection of VW parts!
In the end it will never have a definable market value... but what is value? Whatever works for you and makes you smile.
That type 4 Bus engine is a good solid engine when in good condition. In a Bus though they were hard on heads and the cams went bad. In stock form they make as much power as a modified type 1 engine that costs twice as much. Be careful though with the cooling fan down low like that, make sure it's not drawing in a lot of the spent hot air that normally collects behind the car as it drives and for sure do not use an exhaust system that crosses directly behind that fan! The system it came with addresses that but will make the lower part of the torque curve a bit flat I suspect. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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68blackbird  Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: South Texas
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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Been a minute since first post...lots done since then. Few pics of work so far.
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Rob Combs Samba Member

Joined: December 30, 2020 Posts: 829 Location: South Bay LA, California
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:35 am Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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You've gotten quite a bit done on that!
What did you use to repair the dash pad? Lots of people with a busted-up Super dash would probably like to know! |
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68blackbird  Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: South Texas
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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| Rob Combs wrote: |
You've gotten quite a bit done on that!
What did you use to repair the dash pad? Lots of people with a busted-up Super dash would probably like to know! |
The large hole, I filled with cotton balls, and the cracks, I beveled the edges, filled with body filler, sanded, then sprayed whole dash with Duplicolor Truck bed coating. To get the finish I liked, I held the spray can about 12" from the dash while spraying.
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Rob Combs Samba Member

Joined: December 30, 2020 Posts: 829 Location: South Bay LA, California
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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Clever repair technique.
Thanks for sharing! |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 80382 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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_________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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vamram  Samba Member

Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 8226 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 10:47 am Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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| Rob Combs wrote: |
Clever repair technique.
Thanks for sharing! |
Ditto, great ideas! I've a dash from a '74 Super that I did the same thing w/body filler but stopped at that point because I wasn't sure what to do to get the final texture uniform across the dash. After seeing this, I'm hitting it w/the truck bedliner!
The whole car looks great, btw!
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'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...we hardly knew ye. Sold 2025 for peanuts.
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68blackbird  Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: South Texas
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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| vamram wrote: |
| Rob Combs wrote: |
Clever repair technique.
Thanks for sharing! |
Ditto, great ideas! I've a dash from a '74 Super that I did the same thing w/body filler but stopped at that point because I wasn't sure what to do to get the final texture uniform across the dash. After seeing this, I'm hitting it w/the truck bedliner!
The whole car looks great, btw!
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Thanks...as I stated, the key for uniform pattern was keeping the can about a foot away and keep moving. Good thing about the trunk spray, if you don't like the finish, let it dry a day, lightly sand and try again, Kel |
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finster Samba Member

Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 10519 Location: not far from the madding crowd
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2025 4:04 am Post subject: Re: My first Beetle... |
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I would have thought that flexible filler as used to repair plastic bumpers/fenders would be better and less likely to crack. I used paintable silicon caulk to repair a crack in mine but didn't paint the whole dash but it was quite satisfactory - to a blind man on a galloping horse! _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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Buggeee Samba Member

Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4996 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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