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Skulptorchaz Samba Member

Joined: June 11, 2013 Posts: 856 Location: S.E. Indiana
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:59 pm Post subject: Rear axle nut loosened. Not sure why. |
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So, before the sarcastic remarks start, yes, it was torqued to spec.
Now for history:
This happened once before. I chalked if off the first time to "possibly" not getting it tight (altho, I think I did). That time, it "wore" off the spines on the rotor completely and when I took it apart, there were NO pieces of splines to be found. (maybe 6 years ago.)
This time, I felt/heard something in the brakes and thought I maybe had a warped rotor. I pulled the drivers side rear wheel off and was looking at the rotor and it felt ever so slightly loose. I grabbed the nut and sure enough....lose. The hair pin was still intact. I actually unscrewed it by hand, no wrench at all.
So, is there possibly something I am doing wrong, or have messed up, that allows this? Like some wear occurring someplace else??
I definitely want to get it right as BedbugI want to take it to the Smokies in a couple weeks to ride around and enjoy the mountain roads. (SOOOO fun!)
Also, I'm planning to "drive it" to Key West in the Fall, from Indiana. (I already have East Coast to West Coast, via US-50 under my belt so I need the southern most point now.)
BTW, the rotor might have a couple thousandths of play on the stub but, unless it NEEDS zero play, I think it is fine. It is just barely noticeable.
Thanks in advance gents!!!! I do appreciate your help and insight!
Chaz
P.s. a pic included of Pismo for your viewing pleasure!!! That is Bedbug in the pic.
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Dale M. Samba Member

Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20803 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut loosened. Not sure why. |
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Typical procedure is to go to 265 ft-lbs and continue on till you get a set of axle holes to line up with castle nut.... Hair pins in my auto-x group were considered cool, but I stayed with cotter pins.... _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns"
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Skulptorchaz Samba Member

Joined: June 11, 2013 Posts: 856 Location: S.E. Indiana
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut loosened. Not sure why. |
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Yeah, that is what I do but, it seems like there could be something else. If not, well, I guess we’ll have another go.
Thanks Dale. |
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slayer61 Samba Member

Joined: June 01, 2021 Posts: 1170 Location: TX
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:47 am Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut loosened. Not sure why. |
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Empi rear disc brakes? I had a similar experience. Empi was kind enough to replace them. _________________
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3/4 race cam? What's missing, one of the lobes?  |
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'68 Manx clone... Sears??
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2276 built on AS21 case
W-125 w/ GB 1.25:1 rockers
Mahle forged pistons
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MrGoodtunes Samba Member

Joined: May 14, 2012 Posts: 1019 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut loosened. Not sure why. |
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Makes me wonder: Could the rotor's hub actually get sorta squished from 265+ foot-pounds of torque; I mean, what kinda metal are they made of anyway? (My Chinese rear drums are made of some awfully soft metal.) |
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Tom_Kathleen Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2004 Posts: 934 Location: Vernon, CT
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut loosened. Not sure why. |
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Did you use the early style axle nuts or the later version with a flange built in? The later one work better. Tom _________________ Manxter #16, 1968 Meyers Manx & Kick-Out SS #16 (WIP)
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Jacks Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2006 Posts: 2442 Location: San Clemente, Ca.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut loosened. Not sure why. |
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When you removed the hub, was the small o ring on the axle all chewed up? _________________ Jack Staggs
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EVfun  Samba Member

Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 6138 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut loosened. Not sure why. |
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I had one car where the axle nut like to loosen up. When I pulled the bearing I found the inner spacer installed the wrong direction. After replacing the inner bearing spacer and installing it the right way (large radius against the seat on the axle) the problem went away. This was with stock drum brakes on a '63 Bug. _________________
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slayer61 Samba Member

Joined: June 01, 2021 Posts: 1170 Location: TX
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut loosened. Not sure why. |
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MrGoodtunes wrote: |
Makes me wonder: Could the rotor's hub actually get sorta squished from 265+ foot-pounds of torque; I mean, what kinda metal are they made of anyway? (My Chinese rear drums are made of some awfully soft metal.) |
My mentor has spoken of cams made of "green cheese"  _________________
Cusser wrote: |
... Most folks are idiots when it deals with electrical !!! |
67rustavenger wrote: |
3/4 race cam? What's missing, one of the lobes?  |
Paul
'68 Manx clone... Sears??
RLR/Strange brakes
2276 built on AS21 case
W-125 w/ GB 1.25:1 rockers
Mahle forged pistons
CB 4340 crank
CB H beam rods
deep sump
44 HPMX
EMPI GTV 2 STG II wedge ports
MSD Box and distributor
1 5/8 merged collector w/ hater stinger |
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MrGoodtunes Samba Member

Joined: May 14, 2012 Posts: 1019 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut loosened. Not sure why. |
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slayer61 wrote: |
My mentor has spoken of cams made of "green cheese"  |
Ha ha, and I've also heard of engine and trans cases made of "used toothpaste!" But even tho my Chinese rear drums are so soft that I could easily file down their sorta pot-metal for clearence of brake parts, I've had no castle nut loosness. |
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