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widerberg Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:14 am Post subject: Correct size for fuel line clamps? |
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Hi, All:
I'm going to be replacing the fuel lines on my '69 Beetle. I've read through about a hundred fire threads here, and my head's spinning. Assuming I'll be using the recommended German braided 5mm/5.5mm fuel line, is a 3/8" clamp what I want?
Like, say, these? http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performance-Products/555/16047/10002/-1?parentProductId=2111530
Or, what size am I looking for?
I want to go with the "fuel injection hose clamp" type, with rolled edges and more surface area than standard worm-gear clamps.
Many thanks!!!
Bo _________________ bo
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:32 am Post subject: |
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I used those clamps that you linked.
Im running the stock German braided fuel line.
I like those clamps because they dont "cut the hose" like the worm gear type.
Thats a nice price, and will work for your needs. _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
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bluebus86 Banned
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:33 am Post subject: |
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3/8 inch ought to be about right. by the way your fuel line is more commonly referred to as fuel hose. the fuel line is more commonly referring to the rigid tuning.
you don't need the solid band clamps with braided hose, as the braiding prevents the extrusion of the rubber hose thru the holes of non-solid band clamps.
For the best hose life, use SAE 30R9 hose or similar lined hose. the unlined hose does not resist todays government mandated corn, lobby sponsored, higher priced, lower mileage, oxygenated fuels.
the 30R9 hose is the new standard.
also be sure to safety wire the carb and fuel pump fittings as needed. there are several Samba write ups on how to do this.
I have had one car catch fire and two develop fuel leaks form the old carb or fuel pump fittings coming loose or falling out. this is a serious safety concerns on our aged VW's.
It is very important to safety wire these fittings. do a search, read the posts, look at the photos and DO IT! |
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bowtiebug Samba Member
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widerberg Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the confirmation, guys.
I swear, these fire threads have got me freaked out. But, I've now got a fire extinguisher in the car (ABC for now, but eventually Halotron) and I'm all about changing the hoses and safety-wiring the inlet tube on the carb. Oh, and moving the fuel filter out of the engine compartment. I've also got plastic terminal caps on my battery and am picking up a sheet of rubber to lay over it (between it and the seat springs, as a bit of overkill).
I'm sure there's still a way for my Beetle to catch fire, but I'm trying to hit everything I can to prevent it. Better safe than sorry.
Bo _________________ bo
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:00 am Post subject: |
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widerberg wrote: |
Thanks for the confirmation, guys.
I swear, these fire threads have got me freaked out. But, I've now got a fire extinguisher in the car (ABC for now, but eventually Halotron) and I'm all about changing the hoses and safety-wiring the inlet tube on the carb. Oh, and moving the fuel filter out of the engine compartment. I've also got plastic terminal caps on my battery and am picking up a sheet of rubber to lay over it (between it and the seat springs, as a bit of overkill).
I'm sure there's still a way for my Beetle to catch fire, but I'm trying to hit everything I can to prevent it. Better safe than sorry.
Bo |
That is perfect prevention sir!
I relocated my fuel filter where the line comes out of the frame horn by the trans axle.  _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
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Busdriver79 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:31 am Post subject: |
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The fuel filter should be mounted somewhere between the tank and the pump...I put mine down by the transaxle...others insist upon putting their fuel filters between the pump and carb, and this will work, but be certain to safety wire the hose on the carb fitting to a carb screw...engine vibration and the weight of a full filter can, over time, loosen the barb that is pressed into the carb itself...somebody has been threading these barbs into the carb for a few bucks when he rebuilds them...can't remember the name...and don't use those crappy chinese plastic gas filters either...use the metal filters...FYI there was never a fuel filter in the engine bay from the VW factory...and always use hose clamps of your choice everywhere the hoses slip onto a gas line or fitting.  |
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widerberg Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Cusser wrote: |
Don't forget the safety wiring, shown here in Glenn's photo:
My own safety wiring is not as neat looking as his. |
Speaking of safety wiring, which I plan to do, how do you all do this? Do you loop the wire under the bolt on the carb, just "lasso" it, or do you drill a hole through the head and thread the wire through there?
I'll be picking up a cheapo pair of safety wire pliers from Harbor Freight. Probably won't last, but I think it'll do the job. Just not sure how best to connect the wire to the carb bolt.
Bo _________________ bo
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bluebus86 Banned
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I have put all my safety wires under the screw head, with the screw loosened, then tighten it down. I keep the washer under the wire.
I would not simply lasso the wire around the bolt head, as it may come loose, get it under the head and tighten it down.
yes you could drill a hole thru the head that would be great. little hard to do with a slotted head, better if you use a hex head with no slot.
A nice place to add a fuel filter is under the car near the tranny where the fuel line exits the tunnel, there is some hose on that line, between the tunnel and the engine that is a great place to put a filter. No near by ignition sources. |
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swharris Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Correct size for fuel line clamps? |
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Don't forget the oft removed/thrown away factory hard fuel line bracket that mounts to the driver's side of the fan shroud with a cheesehead screw at the shroud to cyl.3/4 cover point. Most have never seen one, but they were standard for most of production.
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Correct size for fuel line clamps? |
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swharris wrote: |
Don't forget the oft removed/thrown away factory hard fuel line bracket that mounts to the driver's side of the fan shroud with a cheesehead screw at the shroud to cyl.3/4 cover point. Most have never seen one, but they were standard for most of production.] |
Available here:
https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=311127525
or you could use an insulated p-clamp like this:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gardner-Bender-3-8-in-.../100150329 _________________ Tom
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swharris Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:11 am Post subject: Re: Correct size for fuel line clamps? |
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The Depot....shudder the thought. Pragmatic and cost effective as that is, I have started to avoid that place, now that they make me a non-paid employee, forcing me to check myself out for anything I buy while the paid employees stand around and chat. Crazy world we are in with our 70 year old conveyances. Haha. Thanks for the links. |
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busman78 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Correct size for fuel line clamps? |
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Those clamps on Jegs are for 3/8" ID, inside diameter hose, that is .63 on the OD, that is 5/8"+, a bit large for 5.5mm hose. |
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Chinaclipper Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:56 pm Post subject: Fire prevention |
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widerberg wrote: |
Thanks for the confirmation, guys.
I swear, these fire threads have got me freaked out. But, I've now got a fire extinguisher in the car (ABC for now, but eventually Halotron) and I'm all about changing the hoses and safety-wiring the inlet tube on the carb. Oh, and moving the fuel filter out of the engine compartment. I've also got plastic terminal caps on my battery and am picking up a sheet of rubber to lay over it (between it and the seat springs, as a bit of overkill).
I'm sure there's still a way for my Beetle to catch fire, but I'm trying to hit everything I can to prevent it. Better safe than sorry.
Bo |
All good Bo, but PLEASE don't forget that a rubber grommet INTACT and in place in the hole where the fuel line transfers into the engine compartment is a must!
No grommet, the fuel line gets rubbed. Gets rubbed, and splits, and spills raw fuel over hot exhaust manifold: BINGO! you got a fire that's not gonna get put out very easy! _________________ China Clippers Official 1971 Super Beetle Project!
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728089&highlight= |
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