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WestyMan1971 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 8:30 am Post subject: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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I’m currently working on my ‘71 Westy that has a shredded canvas. I’d like to remove the fiberglass to re-gelcoat it and take care of some surface rust on the roof of the Bus. Unfortunately, buying a new canvas isn’t in the budget at the moment as I focus on other areas the Bus needs.
Would there be any issues if I were to put the fiberglass back on without the canvas? I’m mostly concerned with the roof not closing correctly and potentially leaking or being loose while driving because there’s nothing under it. _________________ Visit the Vintage Volkswagen Parts & Tech Wiki today!
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71whitewesty Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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First off, I'd just paint the top with Interlux "off white" bright sides paint. That's what I have done with mine 15 years ago any they still look perfect.
No canvas will mean a lot more air flowing under the fiberglass top. The top will be wobbly as all get out if you open it up. The canvas helps hold the top in place by tension. But overall, you won't harm anything by running it without. But I'd sure want to figure out a way to put a new one on while your'e doing the other work.  _________________ 71 Westy 1600 DP, all stock Bus 1
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andrewtf Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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We ran one of our Riviera's without a canvas for a while.
No real issues except it did rattle a little at higher speeds and is noisier.
It has a different attachment geometry than a Westy - so this might be a factor. A riviera does not have a latch at the very front.. so air can whip around the front tub and get under the looser main roof lip.
And we used marine paint meant for fiberglass (Home Depot) and its been excellent. _________________ '75 Riviera - 'BIG EMMA' - Travel Beast
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WestyMan1971 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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71whitewesty wrote: |
First off, I'd just paint the top with Interlux "off white" bright sides paint. That's what I have done with mine 15 years ago any they still look perfect. |
Thanks for the info. I’m not too worried about the wobble when open, as I can live without opening it until I have new canvas.
This bus spent the first 40 years of its life cooking in the New Mexico desert. The top is very dull with surface cracking in the original coating. Will the Interlux paint still be sufficient to protect it? The price between the Interlux paint and gelcoat from my local West Marine is pretty comparable, though I’m sure the application is different.
Also, as a result of being a desert bus, the original poptop hold downs are long gone (toasted like a lot of the rubber). Do you have a recommendation for who makes the best reproductions? _________________ Visit the Vintage Volkswagen Parts & Tech Wiki today!
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WestyMan1971 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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andrewtf wrote: |
We ran one of our Riviera's without a canvas for a while.
No real issues except it did rattle a little at higher speeds and is noisier.
It has a different attachment geometry than a Westy - so this might be a factor. A riviera does not have a latch at the very front.. so air can whip around the front tub and get under the looser main roof lip.
And we used marine paint meant for fiberglass (Home Depot) and it’s been excellent. |
Thanks for the input. I’ve known a couple Riviera owners. The big difference is that the early bays are hinged at the front, which I could see as being an advantage over both the Riviera and late Westy. _________________ Visit the Vintage Volkswagen Parts & Tech Wiki today!
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mikedjames Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:35 am Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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New gelcoat may not stick too well to well to old well cooked gelcoat unless its well abraded.
Also note that gelcoat is intended to cure when between a mold and layers of laminate, in the absence of air. If you paint it on it may remain depressingly sticky until it has built up a layer of protective dirt..
You need flowcoat.
Or a really good clean and rinse , degrease, sand, fill and paint _________________ Ancient vehicles and vessels
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:32 am Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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I ran my 72 Westy for 3 years without a canvas, plenty of highway miles without an issue! _________________ Project 67 Beetle
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71whitewesty Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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WestyMan1971 wrote: |
71whitewesty wrote: |
First off, I'd just paint the top with Interlux "off white" bright sides paint. That's what I have done with mine 15 years ago any they still look perfect. |
Thanks for the info. I’m not too worried about the wobble when open, as I can live without opening it until I have new canvas.
This bus spent the first 40 years of its life cooking in the New Mexico desert. The top is very dull with surface cracking in the original coating. Will the Interlux paint still be sufficient to protect it? The price between the Interlux paint and gelcoat from my local West Marine is pretty comparable, though I’m sure the application is different.
Also, as a result of being a desert bus, the original poptop hold downs are long gone (toasted like a lot of the rubber). Do you have a recommendation for who makes the best reproductions? |
I think the interlux paint will work fine on your sunburnt top. One I did was sitting in the desert for at least 15 years. You will want to sand it first and use the recommended primer and I'd suggest 3 coats of paint on top of that. You can roll it on or brush it on. I think I rolled and tipped mine.
On the hold downs, Bus depot and several other shops sell them. I'd stay away from the yellowish ones and stick with the black ones as I think they hold it down better. Also, I'd use your original brackets because the ones that the new hold downs come with are really cheap versions. _________________ 71 Westy 1600 DP, all stock Bus 1
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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I ran mine a year without issues with no tent.
The top was painted when I got it, but it wasn’t prepped properly and there were a ton of dry spots and missing gelcoat, and the woodwork was broken or coming off.
So it got primed and painted with the interlux inside and out. Added wiring for the solar panels, a layer of insulation and some hull liner ,
I should have added a roof light while I was doing all that, but it didn’t occur to me until our first camping trip
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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Even without canvas, I would suggest fitting it with a poptop seal. That will keep out the wind and rain, and will prevent rattles. The canvas can then wait. _________________ John
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WestyMan1971 Samba Member

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TomWesty Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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WestyMan1971 wrote: |
That top looks great.
Interlux it is.
Thanks for the info. |
You might also look into totalboat topside paint. I believe it is comparable to Interlux in quality for a single stage polyurethane and it used to be less expensive. Just their regular white is comparable to VW Pastelweiss. They will send you a color chart if you want to check for yourself.
Edit: Interlux bright side has been discontinued. Totalboat Wet Edge would be my choice. _________________ If you haven't bled on them, you haven't worked on them.
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Posted: Yesterday 8:38 am Post subject: Re: Westy fiberglass top without canvas… issues? |
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I use gel coat from Amazon. I sanded the top real good and applied with a 6” foam roller. _________________ __________
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