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Hayden74SB Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2025 Posts: 24 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:38 pm Post subject: Engine parts |
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What suppliers are recommended to get the best mix of lower cost without too much sacrifise to quality?
We are doing a top-end overhaul of our new to us 73 Super Beetle. This is primarily to fix some significant oil leaks including at the base of jugs #1 and #3. We also are doing it to give my Son-in-law some hands-on wrenching to learn more about how these things work.
Other than the oil leaks, the engine ran well. We checked the warm engine compression and got the following results.
#1 – 140psi
#2 – 135psi
#3 – 144psi
#4 – 145psi
Are these pressures normal or is this higher than a stock engine should have. FYI, I forgot to hold the throttle open when testing.
After pulling the cylinders, I checked the conn rods for play and could not feel any. The oil was pretty black but there was no sign of any metal or grit.
We would prefer to not split the case if not necessary. Is this a fools errand? |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 80450 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 6:21 am Post subject: Re: Engine parts |
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All you need is a gasket set... with that compression. Just keep pistons with the cylinders. _________________ Glenn
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baldessariclan Samba Member

Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 2190 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Engine parts |
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| Hayden74SB wrote: |
| What suppliers are recommended to get the best mix of lower cost without too much sacrifise to quality? |
It's the old "good, quick, cheap -- pick any two" sort of deal. You'll have to decide which aspects are the most important to you, and then choose accordingly.
If you're primarily wanting "quick & cheap", vendors like "JBugs", "Cip1" and similar are very popular. Just don't expect all the stuff they send you to fit right, work right, and/or last long -- caveat emptor...
If you prefer "quick & good", some reputable options to consider are vendors like "Wolfsburg West", "West Coast Metric" (for rubber & seals), "Bug City", "VWNOS", Samba classifieds, etc. Be prepared for eye-watering prices in some cases though -- "buy once, cry once"...
Finally, if "good & cheap" are your game, then sources like swap meets, Samba classifieds, eBay sellers, small local shops & junkyards, etc. can all be viable opportunities. You need to know what you're looking for and at to get good deals on reasonable/high quality parts, though. And of course be willing to invest the necessary time + effort to wait for / search out good prospects. _________________ 1971 Standard Beetle — fairly stock / driver
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Bobs67vwagen Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2005 Posts: 918 Location: Eastern north carolina
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Engine parts |
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| If you are just resealing everything, cip1 has a complete Eleing German gasket set with flywheel seal(you want the orange one so ask if that is the one included) for around 30 dollars. |
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pondoras box Samba Member

Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 1914 Location: Warren, PA
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:12 am Post subject: Re: Engine parts |
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Just use some sealant, not RTV silicone, but aviation style gasket sealer at the base of the cylinders. Stretch the original push rod tubes to get the squish to seal them. Use a bit of the aviation sealant on the beveled edge of them. Reassemble and adjust valves etc.. maybe rebuild carb. Reinstall everything with new seals check crankshaft end play. Don’t replace good parts with cheap aftermarket stuff. _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
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Hayden74SB Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2025 Posts: 24 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Engine parts |
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Thanks all for the comments. Now that I have it disassembled, I find that this engine has 88mm jugs. I am a bit surprised by the compression in the 135 to 145 range. I thought that it should be around 130psi.
Should I be concerned about the pressure? I am guessing that if we leave it this way, we should probably use 92-octane fuel.
One other question. Given all of the leaks we have, it would be very nice to clean everything as well as possible before putting the engine back in. Given that we will not be splitting the case, what is the best way to clean it up? I have access to a solvent washer but do not know when the solvent was last changed so it could put more junk into the cast that it would flush out. |
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vamram  Samba Member

Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 8241 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Engine parts |
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| Hayden74SB wrote: |
Should I be concerned about the pressure? I am guessing that if we leave it this way, we should probably use 92-octane fuel.
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No, and I don't think PSI per cylinder has much to do w/the octane you chose. That's more related to compression ratio. More knowledgeable folks will no doubt confirm and explain.
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One other question... Given that we will not be splitting the case, what is the best way to clean it up? I have access to a solvent washer but do not know when the solvent was last changed so it could put more junk into the cast that it would flush out. |
I wouldn't do this without splitting the case. You may end up loosening up gunk that could clog the small oil passages for bearings and such w/out knowing you did. Adiós motor if you were to do this and run it. _________________ "Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition
to put moral chains upon their own appetites. -Edmund Burke
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Hayden74SB Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2025 Posts: 24 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Engine parts |
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| vamram wrote: |
| Hayden74SB wrote: |
Should I be concerned about the pressure? I am guessing that if we leave it this way, we should probably use 92-octane fuel.
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No, and I don't think PSI per cylinder has much to do w/the octane you chose. That's more related to compression ratio. More knowledgeable folks will no doubt confirm and explain.
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One other question... Given that we will not be splitting the case, what is the best way to clean it up? I have access to a solvent washer but do not know when the solvent was last changed so it could put more junk into the cast that it would flush out. |
I wouldn't do this without splitting the case. You may end up loosening up gunk that could clog the small oil passages for bearings and such w/out knowing you did. Adiós motor if you were to do this and run it. |
Thanks. After some more research, I think what I might do is after pulling the conn rods, I will place the jugs back into the case with the pistons slide in until the oil ring is at the top. Then put plugs into the eight lifter holes and other openings, and then give it a good wash with some Super Clean. This is probably a safer method of getting it cleaned up. This would probably still let some water inside the case so I would need to flush out the inside with something to get the water out. Any suggestions? |
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Bobs67vwagen Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2005 Posts: 918 Location: Eastern north carolina
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Engine parts |
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| You could try just doing a small area at a time using brake cleaner or wd-40 and blocking off all openings with rags so not to introduce any water into the engine. Water is not your friend here. |
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Rob Combs Samba Member

Joined: December 30, 2020 Posts: 858 Location: South Bay LA, California
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Engine parts |
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I agree on the whole don’t use water thing.
Brake cleaner is probably your best bet here.
So you’re pulling the rods without splitting the case? They can be a real bitch to put back in through a std bore case because you have to make sure the rod bearings stay in place. It can be done, but good luck. I’m not sure it’s much less work than to split it, but there we go down the scope creep rabbit hole.
While you have the rods out take a good look at your cam & lifters. If they’re wearing, this is the time to address it.
WRT compression ratio, octane needs, and pumping pressure, they are interrelated. Easy to calculate your compression ratio while it’s apart. If you know what cam you have and your static compression ratio, we can tell you a lot about what fuels you may need.
Check the heads for cracks between the plug holes and valve seats while you have it apart.
I say this just to make the teardown worth the effort. It sucks to put one back together only to find you missed something critical while it was apart. Ask me how I know… |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33473 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Engine parts |
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| Rob Combs wrote: |
| So you’re pulling the rods without splitting the case? They can be a real bitch to put back in through a std bore case because you have to make sure the rod bearings stay in place. It can be done, but good luck. |
When I was working at the repair/rental shop back in the 1970s, I did pull the connecting rods and replace the connecting rods and rod bearings through the case holes for a customer, was pretty straightforward. I do think it took like half a day. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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