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 Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:10 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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| Eric&Barb wrote: |
Not enough room for that.
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How so? I'm using a 1500 air cleaner on the metal elbow. Mine is on a 1600 dual-port engine. It all fits, even though the 1600 fan shroud has the fresh air outlets.
The air cleaner touches the fresh air outlets, but it fits.
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EVfun 
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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| Who.Me? wrote: |
| Eric&Barb wrote: |
Not enough room for that.
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How so? I'm using a 1500 air cleaner on the metal elbow. Mine is on a 1600 dual-port engine. It all fits, even though the 1600 fan shroud has the fresh air outlets.
The air cleaner touches the fresh air outlets, but it fits. |
Is this picture of yours an early 1500 Bus air filter on a 40 horse Bus fixed tube from the carb?
If so this looks like it may work for me. I have a beach buggy with almost no room above the top of the fan shroud, making a good air cleaner solution difficult. Since I have a 36 horse style fan shroud on the engine even that slight contact you show wouldn't happen.
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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| Who.Me? wrote: |
The air cleaner touches the fresh air outlets, but it fits. |
Exactly, touching means rubbing a hole thru the air cleaner.
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blacka1vw
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:51 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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Just found this NOS mount - I hope it's for my dusty oil bath filter. Could not find any information based on the part number: 261 613 503. Think it's for welding in. Anyone seen this before?
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Your bracket looks very similar to a bracket I got on a bay window bus that has spent much of its life in South America. It has the dusty conditions air cleaner with the part number ending in 612e 71 date stamp. My bracket is the same shape at the bottom and longer at the top with an additional angle in it. I may use this oil bath in my s/c. I could possibly make a shorter bracket like yours. I’ll take some measurements.
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blacka1vw
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:04 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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But both of those brackets are different from the split bus one shown on page one. Maybe they are both bay window parts.
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Chewie Baker
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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Looking to buy an original air cleaner for my ‘67 bus… can anyone out there help please?
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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| Looking to buy an original air cleaner for my ‘67 bus… can anyone out there help please? |
Do a search in the classifieds. Putting up a WTB advert in the forums is against the rules.
If no luck in the classifieds doing a search, put up a "WTB" titled advert.
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EVfun
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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This popped back up on my “unread” list and I see I never never provided an installed picture. I found the Bus 40 horse elbow here in theSamba classifieds. This is a good shot showing the fit.
With an aftermarket 36 horse style fan shroud I’d guess a stock oil bath would fit, and the filter I installed would clear a stock fan shroud. I used a K&N RG-1003RD-L air filter and an Outerwears 20-1570 filter cover. In this picture the homemade support bracket off the coil mount was installed backwards so the pipe is slightly angled down. The bracket is very close to, but not quite, symmetrical. I’ve since painted it black and flipped it over.
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Chewie Baker
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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thanks for replies and apologies for not knowing the forum rules
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:33 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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| Chewie Baker wrote: |
| thanks for replies and apologies for not knowing the forum rules |
No worries, we all step in dog doodoo now and then.
Go up to the top of any TS webpage and hover your mouse cursor over the "Classifieds" button there. In the pop up list that pops up left click on the "Rules" there. That will take you to the rules. Good to refresh oneself now and then.
Lots of other very cool need to know VW stuff through those buttons.
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von_hansel
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| Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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I recently purchased a Dusty Condition Air Cleaner (Mcode 156) for a 1500. When I went to install it, I kept scratching my head because the bracket was 10mm short of where it should fit on a passenger bus.
Then it dawned on me that it was made for a Truck (Single and/ or Double Cabs) as the bed rails sit lower in the engine bay on trucks.
Below is some comparison photos. On the left is the passenger/ non truck commercial bracket and right is the Truck bracket
Non Truck Bracket = 40cm
Truck Bracket = 29.3cm
I hope this helps someone else down the road.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:00 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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great information - thanks for sharing
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:16 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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I hope this helps someone else down the road. |
Great info, but bracket would be turned around so the bottom is flat to the wheel well.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:28 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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Was there a "squeeze type" clamp used on the pre-heat hose for 40hp or 64-67 style air cleaners?
Here is what WW has:
https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113255737
Same size as a Type 4 engine oil filler clamp?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:33 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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Correct. Have no idea about the type 4 filler size.
Here shown on a 22 mile original 1964 VW beetle.
Takes a special pair of pliers (Swivel Jaw Wire Clamp Plier) to work that clamp without hassles.
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=pliers+for+wire...252C5074.1
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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| Here shown on a 22 mile original 1964 VW beetle. |
Stupendous. What is the red mark at the air cleaner tube clamp? |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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A light reflection on the shiny new paint?
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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| Here shown on a 22 mile original 1964 VW beetle. |
Stupendous. What is the red mark at the air cleaner tube clamp? |
Have no idea. Lots more great info and tons more images in this thread here: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=657206
Even though that is a beetle engine it would have been just the same as the 1964 40 HP bus engine and very close to the 1961-63 40HP and 1500 bus engines. With the exceptions of the beetle air cleaner, muffler, and a little different jetting in the carb.
So neat to see the spark plug cable colors that only show up as grey in the B&W owners manuals of that time. Plus the white (nylon?) holders for the spark plug cables, that are now only sold in a black plastic.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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Found an NOS 1963 thru early 1964 air cleaner in the classifieds here:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2685486
Big thing about this is it shows the water decal that is always missing today.
Figure best to let EverettB insert the images he thinks will work on page 1.
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