'70 bus that looks like a '71

[nix6six]

Anybody see anything like this before? production date 01/70, production plaque says made in Germany, third number in the vin is 0, but it has the brake booster and brakes and wheels of the '71. They appear to have been on there forever so I don't think anything was swapped. Maybe an import? Just wondering

[SGKent]

I'd be looking at the vin on the left side of the engine near where the apron attaches to see if it matches the dash vin.
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[nix6six]

The number in the engine compartment, on the dash and on the title match with a 0 for the third #.

[airschooled]

Where are you getting a production date of 1/70? The rear shoes look original. I don't think replacements ever had the short trailing shoe design.

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[skills@eurocarsplus]

if there is no obvious fuckery with the VIN, someone swapped to the small 5 bolt pattern and brakes

I did the same on my 70 Deluxe. Not that drum brakes are bad, but the quality of the parts was pretty bad 13 years ago or so when I did the build and the disk setup goes deep into the 80's on the Vanagon (Yea, there are differences between the 2 but parts are "easier" to get in decent quality)
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[SGKent]

what is the engine code? Does it have a twin port dog house motor in it or the single port engine?
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1977 deluxe

[nix6six]

it has a fuel injected beetle case (no fuel pump hole) in it with an upright dual port. that obviously has been changed. If the 5 lug components were changed, it was some time ago.

[kreemoweet]

Those are '73 and later rear brakes. Not original if the bus is actually a '70.
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[airschooled]

How are the parking brake cables? Two long cables that go all the way to the lever, or a metal rod connected to the lever, coupled with a spreader bar to two slightly shorter cables?

The later style with a spreader rod helps the driver side parking brake cable clear the brake booster.

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[nix6six]

airschooled wrote:
How are the parking brake cables? Two long cables that go all the way to the lever, or a metal rod connected to the lever, coupled with a spreader bar to two slightly shorter cables?


The later style with a spreader rod helps the driver side parking brake cable clear the brake booster.

Robbie


Are the front dics and rotors and calipers 8´70 - 7´72 or 8´72 onwards?
Is the complete front axle replaced and the rear brakes if not more?
Which type and year is the booster?



To answer the questions I can; the parking brake cables are not separated with a spreader and the one on the left side is resting against the booster. What's the difference between the disc/rotors? If the front beam assembly and the rear brake goodfies were swapped, it was a really long time ago, which could be the case. I was really just wondering if there was any way this was a '70 that somehow couldve come with these options.[/b]

[airschooled]

The parking brake cable pretty much confirms the bus came from the factory without a booster. The rest of the parts were probably swapped in.

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[kreemoweet]

[70bus]

I long ago put disks on my 10/69 dated bay... I had free early-72 parts, but regretted it because short manu period meant parts were later hard to find back then - I hope yours are the readily-available 73 up!

Check your rear axle, as the parts are different and I needed a big spacer under nut ro make it seat (not a good idea) until I finally swapped out the entire rear from leafs out for proper fitment. Could finally run the same tires/hubcaps front and back, too!

last, be SURE there is a balancer (installed correctly!) in the brake line between front and rear; I have seen people swap out drums for disks, not know this was needed, and lock up brakes constantly.
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[nix6six]

it has the balancer. thanks