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vdubsforlife Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Vernon b.c. Canada
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:21 pm Post subject: Septic tank single cab |
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Well I've been into aircooled vws since I was a little kid hanging out with my grandpa. I've wanted a split window bus or truck for pretty much as long as I can remember. Came across this single cab last year and basically had to have it. Must've been someone's business truck at one point, the driver side gate says something about boat sales/rentals. Rear gate says septic tanks. Came from Manitoba at one point, its in B.C. (canada) now. It's missing the engine and a couple small things otherwise pretty complete. I haven't done much on it yet unfortunately. Gathered up a 1600dp got some 90.5mm pistons and cylinders to build a 1776 dual dellorto carbs, Random sheet metal, etc. Threw a couple tie rods on it and 215/75/15 bfg ko2s
Deciphering m codes isn't really my thing if someone wants to help with that I'd appreciate it, i think it's a 1962-63.
Unfortunately it's got plenty of weight reduction and gonna need most of the lower metal replaced rockers are gone, treasure floor is rough, cab floors, etc
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1961 baja 6 rib/1800cc van motor
1964 baja 1500 s/p (rebuilding)
1974 bug so rotten the doors don't close (good shed)
1983 toyota 4x4/33 in mt baja claws
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RWK Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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It is an early 63, February, M codes are in the technical pull down. _________________ 73 Type 181
63 Type 113
63 Type 261- 428 071
62 Type 241-378 025 178 530 |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member

Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 25948 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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Looks like a nice project!! Looking forward to much more....  _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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velvetgreen Samba Member

Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 2893 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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Nice Find! Hard to make out if that is Ruby Red or Sealing Wax Red based on paint fade. You could have a lot of fun with some revamped logo's on your Septic Bus
"Stool Bus" "Yesterday's Meals on Wheels" you get the idea. |
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velvetgreen Samba Member

Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 2893 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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390 North American equipment Seen on various 60-62 Trucks
KN Canada, St. John, N.B. |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52787 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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EverettB wrote: |
Weird that they cut off the middle of the front bumper overrider |
Maybe it had a big roll of hose hanging on the nose, suck em up!  _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Eric&Barb Samba Member

Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 25948 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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busdaddy wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Weird that they cut off the middle of the front bumper overrider |
Maybe it had a big roll of hose hanging on the nose, suck em up!  |
Probably someone towed it with that bar, or at least tried to. Then cut off the all too bent up bar. Take a good look at the bumper blade center point it is kind of tucked downward where the top of the blade should be flat. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52787 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Weird that they cut off the middle of the front bumper overrider |
Maybe it had a big roll of hose hanging on the nose, suck em up!  |
Probably someone towed it with that bar, or at least tried to. Then cut off the all too bent up bar. Take a good look at the bumper blade center point it is kind of tucked downward where the top of the blade should be flat. |
Yeah, the quickest way to make the extraction mistake disappear. That bar tempts so many amature tow helpers. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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vdubsforlife Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Vernon b.c. Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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velvetgreen wrote: |
Nice Find! Hard to make out if that is Ruby Red or Sealing Wax Red based on paint fade. You could have a lot of fun with some revamped logo's on your Septic Bus
"Stool Bus" "Yesterday's Meals on Wheels" you get the idea. |
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1961 baja 6 rib/1800cc van motor
1964 baja 1500 s/p (rebuilding)
1974 bug so rotten the doors don't close (good shed)
1983 toyota 4x4/33 in mt baja claws
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vdubsforlife Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Vernon b.c. Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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EverettB wrote: |
The 15 3 is the 15th day of March so March 15th, 1963 production
390 must have been used on 1963 Trucks too
RED on a '63 is Ruby Red
Logos are always cool.
Weird that they cut off the middle of the front bumper overrider |
Cool thanks for the exact info!
Figured people more knowledgeable than me would how the numbers worked
Yea I'm stoked on the logo's, always thought it's be cool to have a vehicle with them! The front bumper is pretty mangled up and bent up anything could've happened in 62 years since it was built _________________ single seat buggy
1961 baja 6 rib/1800cc van motor
1964 baja 1500 s/p (rebuilding)
1974 bug so rotten the doors don't close (good shed)
1983 toyota 4x4/33 in mt baja claws
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vdubsforlife Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Vernon b.c. Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Weird that they cut off the middle of the front bumper overrider |
Maybe it had a big roll of hose hanging on the nose, suck em up!  |
Probably someone towed it with that bar, or at least tried to. Then cut off the all too bent up bar. Take a good look at the bumper blade center point it is kind of tucked downward where the top of the blade should be flat. |
Yea that's honestly makes the most sense, someone probably tried to pull from the over rider tube and I can imagine what happened next _________________ single seat buggy
1961 baja 6 rib/1800cc van motor
1964 baja 1500 s/p (rebuilding)
1974 bug so rotten the doors don't close (good shed)
1983 toyota 4x4/33 in mt baja claws
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vdubsforlife Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Vernon b.c. Canada
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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Swapped out the very crusty front shocks that were definitely do for replacement. Doesn't feel like much, but rome wasn't build in a day either.
Is there any reason I can't use a bus cargo floor in place of my treasure floor? I'm seeing conflicting info about it being different but I figure I can probably make it work. It's definitely better than my current situation haha.
Kinda neat the spare tire holder and old Goodyear bias ply is still in place
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1961 baja 6 rib/1800cc van motor
1964 baja 1500 s/p (rebuilding)
1974 bug so rotten the doors don't close (good shed)
1983 toyota 4x4/33 in mt baja claws
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Who.Me? Samba Member

Joined: July 14, 2014 Posts: 2536 Location: UK (South)
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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vdubsforlife wrote: |
Is there any reason I can't use a bus cargo floor in place of my treasure floor? I'm seeing conflicting info about it being different but I figure I can probably make it work. |
As far as I'm aware, the only floor variations are around the position of where the cargo doors would have been if it was used on a bus (left or right side doors).
For a single cab, you will need to open up that rectangular flat spot pressing at the rear of the right hand half though, because that's where the fuel tank outlet goes.
Have a look at Glideking's 'Funky Truck' thread. He shows tools he made to punch it out and have the correct 'upstand' around the hole to keep the foam rubber tank-to-floor seal in place.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6733480#6733480
Not sure if Huetti covered that in his '57 rebuild too? https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=605363 _________________ Andy
Looking for info on my truck's history. Are you from Campbell California or nearby. Do you recognise it? ... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636786 |
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vdubsforlife Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Vernon b.c. Canada
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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As far as I'm aware, the only floor variations are around the position of where the cargo doors would have been if it was used on a bus (left or right side doors).
Ok that's makes sense that the cargo doors might be a bit different vs a treasure door
For a single cab, you will need to open up that rectangular flat spot pressing at the rear of the right hand half though, because that's where the fuel tank outlet goes.
Have a look at Glideking's 'Funky Truck' thread. He shows tools he made to punch it out and have the correct 'upstand' around the hole to keep the foam rubber tank-to-floor seal in place.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6733480#6733480
Ohh thanks, I see what you mean about that little square hole that would need to be opened up for the fuel tank
Not sure if Huetti covered that in his '57 rebuild too? https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=605363[/quote] _________________ single seat buggy
1961 baja 6 rib/1800cc van motor
1964 baja 1500 s/p (rebuilding)
1974 bug so rotten the doors don't close (good shed)
1983 toyota 4x4/33 in mt baja claws
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vdubsforlife Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Vernon b.c. Canada
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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Well starting to gather up more metal to make this thing solid again
It's a good thing I'm not a big guy or get claustrophobic easy haha not much room in that treasure chest. Its gonna need alot of metal repair but it will be well worth the efforts in the end
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1961 baja 6 rib/1800cc van motor
1964 baja 1500 s/p (rebuilding)
1974 bug so rotten the doors don't close (good shed)
1983 toyota 4x4/33 in mt baja claws
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70bus  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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That section up front, where the cargo floor meets the bulkhead, should be worked on. It's a complete pain in the butt to do (there's a thread on it in here somewhere) but important for structure. Even slapping a big angle iron there to join the two is better than nothing. Friend's s/c went over railroad tracks and bus broke at that joint! _________________ Craig K
70 Neunsitzer
65 Pritschenwagen
"If Von Dutch was alive, he'd walk in there with a pistol and shoot these people." - Robert Williams
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vdubsforlife Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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70bus wrote: |
That section up front, where the cargo floor meets the bulkhead, should be worked on. It's a complete pain in the butt to do (there's a thread on it in here somewhere) but important for structure. Even slapping a big angle iron there to join the two is better than nothing. Friend's s/c went over railroad tracks and bus broke at that joint! |
Makes sense thanks, yeah they really isn't much of a frame per say with the unibody structure. I'm sure that's a bit of a weak point if driving all rusty without much holding it together.
I remember reading through the build of your single cab when I got mine, yours came along ways! Looks like a pretty solid truck now _________________ single seat buggy
1961 baja 6 rib/1800cc van motor
1964 baja 1500 s/p (rebuilding)
1974 bug so rotten the doors don't close (good shed)
1983 toyota 4x4/33 in mt baja claws
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vdubsforlife Samba Member

Joined: July 19, 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Vernon b.c. Canada
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Septic tank single cab |
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Feels nice to be working on these old aircooled vws again, been quiet afew years since I've touched them. These things are what made me want to become a mechanic. Wish I could work on old vehicles daily instead of the modern junk I have to fix day in day out.
I checked the oil in the transaxle months back and fished out one of the safety wired bolts for the ring gear to differential with a small magnet. Which is exactly what you want to see haha
The play in the hockey stick and nose cone bushings leave a bit to be desired aswell. Must be close to an 1/8 inch of play in between the bushing and hockey stick
The rest of the bolts are slightly loose aswell, I can rock the ring gear back and forth on the diff carrier. The carrier is also egged out a bit from the bolts running loose. I'm thinking a super diff and new bolts at a minimum. Planning to run a 1776cc with dual carbs, if the transaxle couldn't even handle the og 40hp now would be the time for upgrades
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1961 baja 6 rib/1800cc van motor
1964 baja 1500 s/p (rebuilding)
1974 bug so rotten the doors don't close (good shed)
1983 toyota 4x4/33 in mt baja claws
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