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Bobnotch
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Square back resurrection Reply with quote

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Oh well, you wouldn't be the first to give up on a big project like this one was.


It is not the size of the project that has me passing it on, I was expecting to put ~3 years into it, I have no problem with that. This one took me 2 years and nine months

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No it was the fight. I am sick of fighting with it. From discovering that the heater channels I got with the car were the wrong year to finding out the front suspension had been destroyed because the DPO had completely dismantled it and stuck it outside for years every damn thing is a fight. No, I don't want to fight with it anymore.

Don


I don't blame you on the "fighting" part. The PO didn't do you any favors either. When I did my 64 T-34, there were times I got upset, because I felt I was fighting myself. That car took me 3 years to do, mainly hunting down the T-34 only bits. It didn't help it sat outside for 20 years before Russ (the guy I got it from) bought it. Granted I'm okay with doing rust repair (I put the floor pans and front clip on it for Russ), and the floor pan being a type 3 (I have experience with it) made things go easier, it was the goofy stuff like pop out window latches, or the rear trunk latch lock, or the little odd ball stuff for the front trunk, or the head light stuff, or the fog light assemblies (ALL T-34 only) that made things more of a challenge. Granted I had the pan done quickly, and then spent almost a year solid on doing rust work, as that car unlike other VW's wasn't sealed to prevent rust, and there was a lot of it. When I finally got to the point of putting the interior together, the Sew Fine carpet was about 3 inches too short for the tunnel, the headliner was only available in one color (off white (tan?)) and the windlace strips weren't correct either. It was those little things that ticked me off. Then the door window seals wouldn't fit correctly, because they were for the later car, not the early ones. It just seemed like one nightmare after another, except it was happening in the day time.
I did a 73 Thing in less than 5 months that had been sitting for 20 years that was so much easier, even though it got painted inside and out. The hard part for that car, was the gas heater that I sent out for rebuilding, as I didn't know anything about them. With a little help from my son, we even replaced the vinyl top and assembled the side windows, and rebuilt the original engine. That was a fun project, as it went like it should, quick and easy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Square back resurrection Reply with quote

Thanks for all your help Bobnotch, I really appreciate it. Another total screw up is the DPO took the steering column apart and destroyed the turn signal switch and the ignition switch. Why!?

Anyways, I have the beetle to sort out. It appears something got in the oil gallery for the push rods, ran them out of oil and seized them in their bores. It was running so beautifully until it wasn't. But I have a spare motor so that is a couple of hours work to install and the beetle is back on the road.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Square back resurrection Reply with quote

sunroof wrote:
Thanks for all your help Bobnotch, I really appreciate it. Another total screw up is the DPO took the steering column apart and destroyed the turn signal switch and the ignition switch. Why!?

Anyways, I have the beetle to sort out. It appears something got in the oil gallery for the push rods, ran them out of oil and seized them in their bores. It was running so beautifully until it wasn't. But I have a spare motor so that is a couple of hours work to install and the beetle is back on the road.

Don


Yeah, no idea on why someone would take the steering column apart either, unless they were changing the ignition switch. I hate those early columns too, as I had to redo mine for my T-34. In my 65 Notch, I used a late model column head with the early tube and late column shaft (mixed and matched the pieces) to make everything work.
I find it's always handy to have a spare engine around. I learned that from the 90's when I was driving a beetle back and forth to work everyday. Since I sold my beetle, I keep a spare engine for my type 3 in the garage (converted 73 T-1 to T-3 with T-3 cooling tins).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Square back resurrection Reply with quote

Back when I daylied a 63 baja I had a winter engine (stock-ish 1600) and a summer engine (1776 kadron motor). The 1776 is now my fastback engine (after many changes).

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2025 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: Square back resurrection Reply with quote

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The fellow who dismantled the car just threw everything in tubs. I spent hours combing through it all to organize things in such a way as to have a hope of finding parts. The six screws, for instance that hold the pop-out latches to the body took probably 3 hours to find.

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