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Joel
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The other one that works in a bug is a SR18X late auto Vanagon starter
I had this one in my bug for a few years.
They are good if you run a twin turbo Subaru engine as none of the others starters clear the second turbo.
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supermanbidder
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I ordered a vr17x should work right
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VolkDubz
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| yeah, the autostick starter is "self-supporting" meaning it's housing extends to the other end of the starter shaft... there is no need for the bushing.... |
Here is what one looks like...
And here is the stock style that needs the bushing... don't mind the chewed up gear LOL 
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| You don't need to touch the bushing the auto stick starter has nothing to do with it. |
Yessirie.... the autostick starter never comes in contact with where the bushing is...
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I've got a 67bug that I'm putting a 1200 6v in (Long story, wont be that way for long). If I buy a autostick starter will that work for a 6v and 12v flywheel? and can you find them at AutoZone, O'reileys, etc...... or should I just get a used one off here? |
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Joel
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| Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| VolkDubz wrote: |
I've got a 67bug that I'm putting a 1200 6v in (Long story, wont be that way for long). If I buy a autostick starter will that work for a 6v and 12v flywheel? |
No, only 12 volts, 6 volt have a different number of teeth and don;t mesh correctly
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VolkDubz
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| Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| Joel wrote: |
| VolkDubz wrote: |
I've got a 67bug that I'm putting a 1200 6v in (Long story, wont be that way for long). If I buy a autostick starter will that work for a 6v and 12v flywheel? |
No, only 12 volts, 6 volt have a different number of teeth and don;t mesh correctly |
is there a better alternative to make 6volts better considering you cant get a autostick starter? |
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73rail
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Autostick starter in a manual tranny? |
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Hello. I bought i running motor recently, i took it out ofbthe sand rail it was in and put it in mine.
I adjusted the valves to. 007, retorqued the heads to 22ft lbs, and changed the crank seal.
I went to turn it over, and it turns much harder than my old motor. I know this one was built, but i dont know exact details.
Could this mean i need a high torque starter for this motor?
Anything will help. Thank you |
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itskyle
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| VolkDubz wrote: |
| Joel wrote: |
| VolkDubz wrote: |
I've got a 67bug that I'm putting a 1200 6v in (Long story, wont be that way for long). If I buy a autostick starter will that work for a 6v and 12v flywheel? |
No, only 12 volts, 6 volt have a different number of teeth and don;t mesh correctly |
is there a better alternative to make 6volts better considering you cant get a autostick starter? |
Well,
Put a 12 volt battery in, and prepare for all of your electrics to eventually die.
=)
Seriously, though, it's an option, but one that would have to be compared to swapping out the flywheel on your 6V tranny.
The latter-requires you to buy another 12 v flywheel, and create space for the flywheel in the housing of your tranny.
the former?
Well, lets see.
replace all 6 volt lights with 12 volt.
replace 6 volt wiper motor with rare us model 67 12 volt-or install voltage drop with rheostat and resistor-multiple speeds that way, but imagine the wiper motor will eventually need replaced.
replace 6 volt genny with uber-rare made only for a few years 12 volt genny, or 12 volt alternator if that, then replace gen stand with alt stand
make sure you have a source (like I do) for lifetime warranty 6 volt starters
pretty much, am I missing anything else guys?
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ashman40
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Autostick starter in a manual tranny? |
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| 73rail wrote: |
Hello. I bought i running motor recently, i took it out ofbthe sand rail it was in and put it in mine.
I adjusted the valves to. 007, retorqued the heads to 22ft lbs, and changed the crank seal.
I went to turn it over, and it turns much harder than my old motor. I know this one was built, but i dont know exact details.
Could this mean i need a high torque starter for this motor?
Anything will help. Thank you |
When you installed the crank seal behind the flywheel did you seat the seal all the way down into the opening? If you didn't, the seal could be applying friction on the flywheel and this is what you are feeling.
Can you rotate the crank pulley by hand? You should feel each cylinder build compression as you rotate the crank, but should be able to work past TDC for each cylinder.
Can you rotate it with a wrench on the crank bolt?
Does removing the spark plugs make it easier to rotate? If it is compression related removing the spark plugs will reduce the resistance and there should be smooth consistent resistance thru the rotation.
High torque starter is only needed when you have so much compression that the stock starter can't over come this. Any reasonable compression ratio should not be a problem for a stock starter.
Check for other things before throwing $$ at a high torque starter.
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Eronicon
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Autostick starter in a manual tranny? |
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So, I currently have a SR15N, so it appears the SR17X would be the autostick equivalent, right?
Just want to make sure because I have to return the new one I bought.
All to avoid dealing with that dang bushing (which I have been struggling with last couple days) |
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Bobs67vwagen
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Autostick starter in a manual tranny? |
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| Sr17x should work fine without the need for the bushing for support. It is what I have in my 67 bug for many years and what I have used in my other bugs and buses for the last 45 years. Good luck |
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Cusser
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Autostick starter in a manual tranny? |
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| Bobs67vwagen wrote: |
| Sr17x should work fine without the need for the bushing for support. |
YES
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jeffrey8164
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Autostick starter in a manual tranny? |
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| 73rail wrote: |
Hello. I bought i running motor recently, i took it out ofbthe sand rail it was in and put it in mine.
I adjusted the valves to. 007, retorqued the heads to 22ft lbs, and changed the crank seal.
I went to turn it over, and it turns much harder than my old motor. I know this one was built, but i dont know exact details.
Could this mean i need a high torque starter for this motor?
Anything will help. Thank you |
I have a 2276 with 9.4 static compression ratio and 160 lbs of compression on all four cylinders. My SR15X has no problem at all.
I originally installed a high torque starter but it didn’t “sound like a VW” so I changed it back.
I still have that high torque on a shelf if you’re interested.
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