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dobryan
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 Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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| tam_shops wrote: |
Thanks, I was talking about (and added clarification) of Tether Anchors. Good to know about seat belt bolts being welded to the body, never heard that before...
Is it all vehicles or just a Vanagon?
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| AFAIK all seat belt anchors have the nuts welded to the body... |
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The seat belt bolts are not welded. The nut on the underside is welded to the body so when you remove the bolt the nut stays there.
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baltik
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:36 am Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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I just had to cross this bridge on my Syncro Westy, unfortunately welding in harness attachments points just isn't an option given the location of the gastank - I had a local welder build this for me... Obviously the 40 degree angle isn't there but seemed like the best available option.
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bestiewesty
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| Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:44 pm Post subject: Yes please |
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| We ran a cable between the attachment bolts for each end of the lap belt. Plenty strong, stays out of the way when we fold the bed down, the tether runs straight - not at an angle, and easy to reach. If you're interested I can post a pic next week. |
was this for a rear facing set up? If so I would love to see photos. Thanks! |
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tam_shops
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| Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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Hi,
I installed the Ford TAs about where boof1306 put his, a bit more far forward. Technically, they’re supposed to be at a 30 degree angle, but that’s on the engine lid, so a now go. 30 degree up goes through a cabinet, also no go.
My pics all went away…will take new ones and send them to you in the morning. Please remind me if I forget.
While things for our vehicles haven’t changed, I’m no longer a Certified car seat technician, it lapsed during Covid and I’ve yet to renew it…so, now answering as someone just from the .V.W community.
Cheers!
Tammy
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ALIKA T3
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| Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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| tam_shops wrote: |
Hi,
I installed the Ford TAs about where boof1306 put his, a bit more far forward. Technically, they’re supposed to be at a 30 degree angle, but that’s on the engine lid, so a now go. 30 degree up goes through a cabinet, also no go.
My pics all went away…will take new ones and send them to you in the morning. Please remind me if I forget.
While things for our vehicles haven’t changed, I’m no longer a Certified car seat technician, it lapsed during Covid and I’ve yet to renew it…so, now answering as someone just from the .V.W community.
Cheers!
Tammy |
Hi Tammy!
I read your posts a few times here and were very helpful to understand what's need.
Car seat stuff is overwhelming.
I just got myself a baby car seat (Doona/stroller), it was on sale with a free baby, so I went for it.
I bought an extra base. I like that it can be used with the Vanagon lapbelts.
Some friends with a kid needed to install a child seat, so I made this bar, inspired by other members solutions found here
I commented on this thread:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=779549
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tam_shops
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| Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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Hi,
You’re installing a rear faced car seat?
You do not need a TA for a rear faced seat. My oldest was in Kindergarten before he went forward faced. My youngest was heavier and was 3-4 before forward faced.
Legally here, you have to be something like 20lb, some seats require walking. Safety wise you you want the child to be as old as possible with the best possible muscle mass and bone density.
Tammy
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ALIKA T3
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| Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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| tam_shops wrote: |
Hi,
You’re installing a rear faced car seat?
You do not need a TA for a rear faced seat. My oldest was in Kindergarten before he went forward faced. My youngest was heavier and was 3-4 before forward faced.
Legally here, you have to be something like 20lb, some seats require walking. Safety wise you you want the child to be as old as possible with the best possible muscle mass and bone density.
Tammy |
No, it was forward facing, almost 3yo kid.
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tam_shops
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| Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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Hi,
Please skip the bar and just use the seatbelt. It’s tested, safe, and legal.
Yes, by 3 most kids are FF. I’ll get updated pictures of my installed TA.
Tam
| ALIKA T3 wrote: |
| tam_shops wrote: |
Hi,
You’re installing a rear faced car seat?
You do not need a TA for a rear faced seat. My oldest was in Kindergarten before he went forward faced. My youngest was heavier and was 3-4 before forward faced.
Legally here, you have to be something like 20lb, some seats require walking. Safety wise you you want the child to be as old as possible with the best possible muscle mass and bone density.
Tammy |
No, it was forward facing, almost 3yo kid. |
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alinghi12
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| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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We're still rear facing with our daughter. I got this guy which can be bolted to the firewall or just use the included straps for the anchors.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BNJP76C
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tam_shops
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| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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We're still rear facing with our daughter. I got this guy which can be bolted to the firewall or just use the included straps for the anchors.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BNJP76C |
I know nothing about this device, but know the lap only belt works great and is safe, tested, and legal...
Ford will give you free ones if you go and ask for Latch anchors for a 1990 Ford Festiva. If it doesn't work, DM, I'll look up numbers of similar ones...
Cheers
Editing to ask, how would you even fold the bed down and/or sleep with that secured to the frame of the vehicle? The Ford latch slides nicely under the mattress and has never bothered me...
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_Kodiak
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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| tam_shops wrote: |
Hi,
Please skip the bar and just use the seatbelt. It’s tested, safe, and legal.
Yes, by 3 most kids are FF. I’ll get updated pictures of my installed TA.
Tam |
Hi Tam, any chance you have this pics? Need to figure out a forward facing car seat in my 87. Seems like you might have a decent solution. TIA!
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tam_shops
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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| tam_shops wrote: |
Hi,
Please skip the bar and just use the seatbelt. It’s tested, safe, and legal.
Yes, by 3 most kids are FF. I’ll get updated pictures of my installed TA.
Tam |
Hi Tam, any chance you have this pics? Need to figure out a forward facing car seat in my 87. Seems like you might have a decent solution. TIA! |
It’s not letting me upload a picture to tinypic, says it’s too large. I took a picture of the picture with my iPad, and that didn’t work either. Is there another forum people use?
Will try to DM you the picture and some info on a car seat tech in OR.
Edited to add
It let me add a picture using this forum here. Sorry if that’s not the right spot!
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_cat.php?cat_id=38
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dobryan
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vanagonjr
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:20 am Post subject: Re: Child seat tether anchor options for 87 Westy |
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| _Kodiak wrote: |
| tam_shops wrote: |
Hi,
Please skip the bar and just use the seatbelt. It’s tested, safe, and legal.
Yes, by 3 most kids are FF. I’ll get updated pictures of my installed TA.
Tam |
Hi Tam, any chance you have this pics? Need to figure out a forward facing car seat in my 87. Seems like you might have a decent solution. TIA! |
It’s not letting me upload a picture to tinypic, says it’s too large. I took a picture of the picture with my iPad, and that didn’t work either. Is there another forum people use?
Will try to DM you the picture and some info on a car seat tech in OR.
Edited to add
It let me add a picture using this forum here. Sorry if that’s not the right spot!
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_cat.php?cat_id=38
Tam |
Tam - if you copy the forum code from your hosted pic which is (https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/2604796.jpg) preceeded by [img] and followed by [/img] ) , it will show up. like below.
P.S. thanks for all your info on car seats over the years.
Good info here on car seats working for kids
https://thecarseatlady.com/freakonomics-fallacy-an...hild-safe/
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