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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 10:46 am    Post subject: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

Been having issues with my 86 Westy lately. Mostly rough idle.
But then last night I drove to town. Things seemed ok on the way there.
Then, on the way home, I stopped to get gas.
After filling up the clutch felt really spongy and was hard to shift.
Then I noticed that I was not really accelerating properly. On the highway at 55 I had it floored and she seemed to not wanna break 60. Occasionally I would feel power re-engage, but that was only for a brief few seconds.
Barely made it home.
She fired up fine but dies immediately when I release the clutch, even if I’m revving to higher RPMs.
I was planning on checking fuel pressure as well as replacing clutch/brake fluid.
But now I fear it’s something worse. Maybe need a new clutch?
This might be my excuse to upgrade to a 5speed and replace the old wasserboxer.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

Does the van roll easily if you push it?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

With it in gear?
I did a compression test. All cylinders above 110 psi
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

Yes. In gear it practically rolled down without pushing.
Yikes.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

Brakes can hang enough to kill an engine on move off. Since it rolls easily it’s not the brakes.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

can you drive fine in reverse?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

vodo1976 wrote:
Yes. In gear it practically rolled down without pushing.
Yikes.

are you saying that the car rolls easily while in gear?
if so, the clutch would be suspect.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

If the clutch were shot, I'd expect the engine to rev easily and have no movement. I like the idea of testing how does it do in reverse?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

It moves forward and backwards a little bit if I basically smoke the clutch.
I’m beginning to think it’s the throttle position switch. The switch isn’t clicking in the low end. Gonna check it soon.
If that’s it, I have to thank VanAgain.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

vodo1976 wrote:
It moves forward and backwards a little bit if I basically smoke the clutch.


to be obvious, that ain't right. if you are literally smoking the clutch, it is not a throttle switch problem but either a brake issue, which you've ruled out by pushing it easily, or something with the transmission or final drive.

you COULD be mistakenly trying to take off in 3rd gear instead of 1st. this happens with a shift linkage misalignment. that's why i ask if it moves okay in reverse. it sounds like it doesn't.

be prepared for ring and pinion damage that is binding under torque.

might be time to pull the drain plug on the transaxle and examine the fluid and magnet. be sure you can loosen the FILL plug prior to removing the drain plug.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

I was thinking misaligned shifter too. But, at 55mph in 4th gear the van should accelerate. So I think that rules that out as well.

Does it rev easily in neutral?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

Still sold on testing in reverse. No mistaking what gear you’re in. As far as the TPS, I’ve seen plenty of vans running with misadjusted and non functioning tps switches.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
If the clutch were shot, I'd expect the engine to rev easily and have no movement. I like the idea of testing how does it do in reverse?


A slipping clutch which is shot, may allow the van to move.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

A slipping clutch may still allow the van to move, but it will not cause the van to stall nearly as easily as a non-slipping clutch. In fact, a common way to test if the clutch is slipping is to dump the clutch in a higher gear and if the engine keeps running, the clutch is slipping. Considering the title of this thread, it seems very unlikely to me that the culprit is a slipping clutch.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

I suspect that the clutch is not fully disengaging, if not fully engaging either.

It’d be interesting to watch the distance that the slave “lever” moves into the transmission, and compare it to what one or several of our own vans travel. I’ll measure mine if you measure yours.

It’s also possible the bracket holding the slave has recently cracked, is flexing with full clutch pedal travel, and coming up short of full travel and disengagement. This could explain why the soft pedal suddenly showed up — or the softening wasn’t noticed and could be as easy as needing a good fluid flush.

Is your level full in the brake fluid reservoir? If not or if so, looks for any leaks below the reservoir but especially under the boot of the slave itself.

I sense the stalling and weak highway power is another issue altogether, possibly a failing O2 sensor or Temp 2 sensor, or since it started at the gas station, some water in a load of bad gas.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: Help! Vanagon dies when releasing clutch Reply with quote

zerotofifty wrote:
MarkWard wrote:
If the clutch were shot, I'd expect the engine to rev easily and have no movement. I like the idea of testing how does it do in reverse?


A slipping clutch which is shot, may allow the van to move.


My previous point wasn’t clear. A slipping clutch is not going to cause the engine to stall. It’s actually the opposite. Engine will rev and not stall.

There was a member sometime back had a similar problem and someone suggested they were moving off in third and that was the actual problem in the end. Finding first or second can be difficult with worn bushings so it can be difficult to tell. Reverse is obvious. You either select or you don’t. If the engine runs and the van moves in reverse, linkage might be suspect. If the symptom is the same in reverse you need to be looking elsewhere.
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