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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 11:31 am    Post subject: Camber adjustment on Dune Buggy rear wheels with IRS axels Reply with quote

Question...I have a fairly new Berrien Dune Buggy frame/body and stock VW 1600cc. The rear wheels have too much negative Camber (about 5 or 6 degrees) so the inside edge of the rear tires are going to wear out first. Can I adjust (raise the ride height) on the torsion springs a few splines to fix this? Or, is there a way to adjust the Camber at the IRS Axel hub? Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Camber adjustment on Dune Buggy rear wheels with IRS axels Reply with quote

Adjusting ride height on an IRS does little to affect camber. Worn bushings or bent control arms often are the problem.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Camber adjustment on Dune Buggy rear wheels with IRS axels Reply with quote

Loosening of spring plate bolts with tires on the ground, the weight of car will allow movement in bolt in the slots on spring plate and can help with getting less negative camber.
Used to this in a shop I worked at.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Camber adjustment on Dune Buggy rear wheels with IRS axels Reply with quote

I’ll have to give that trick a try.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: Camber adjustment on Dune Buggy rear wheels with IRS axels Reply with quote

I notice a lot of lowered VW's (Torsion spring adjustment) have increased negative camber. So I'm wondering if I raise my ride height with Torsion Spring adjustment if the Camber will go back to normal and the camber won't be so negative. Just a thought...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: Camber adjustment on Dune Buggy rear wheels with IRS axels Reply with quote

Yes it will, but you will of course be higher so the front may have to follow.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Camber adjustment on Dune Buggy rear wheels with IRS axels Reply with quote

Spowers wrote:
I notice a lot of lowered VW's (Torsion spring adjustment) have increased negative camber. So I'm wondering if I raise my ride height with Torsion Spring adjustment if the Camber will go back to normal and the camber won't be so negative. Just a thought...


What year is your frame? Do you have a swingaxle rear suspension or the later IRS rear suspension?

With the swingaxle suspension the ride height (and to a less extent the year of the frame) determine the camber. One end of the axle is in the middle of the transaxle and the other end moves up and down with the ride height. Raising the back dramatically increases rear camber and lowering dramatically reduces rear camber. I've seen lowered old Bugs with over -5 degrees rear camber.

With the later IRS rear suspension you have 2 CV joints in each axle. The rear wheels go almost strait up and down as the ride height changes. As the rear is lowered there is a little negative camber and at high ride heights a little positive camber, but nothing like the drastic changes seen with the swingaxle suspension. If the rear wheels have too much negative camber with this suspension the reason is usually worn out suspension bushings.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Camber adjustment on Dune Buggy rear wheels with IRS axels Reply with quote

First post says IRS.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Camber adjustment on Dune Buggy rear wheels with IRS axels Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone for all the feedback. Love this forum! I have a fairly new Berrien Buggy/frame (only 800 miles on it) Stock 1600cc motor with IRS transaxle. Can't imagine the bushings are already worn out but will check. I like the suggestion of loosening the spring plate bolts while tires are on the ground. Gonna try that first. If that doesn't work I'm going to adjust the ride height up a few splines in the hopes the camber becomes less negative. I'll post the results for learning purposes.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: Camber adjustment on Dune Buggy rear wheels with IRS axels Reply with quote

First pic shows the top of the tires leaning out. The stub axle centerline is above the springplate center line.
Second pic shows how far I was able to bring in the top of the tires by bringing the stub axle centerline closer to, or below the springplate centetline.
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