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BerT3
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 Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: Some dash education |
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Finally got hold of a perfect pré '65 wrap around dash !
Got a collection of all generation dashes now.
First one in the world to take a photo of them all lined up ?
Want to share some knowledge.
Some education:
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- Pre '65 wrap around dash - only type with closed ends to align with door top trim
- No vertical bar at the speaker grille
- Grille at the back
- alu collarred holes for the grab handle
- tabs across the back for mounting
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- '66 - '67 only dash - type with open ends
- No vertical bar at the speaker grille
- Grille at the back
- alu collarred holes for the grab handle
- tabs across the back for mounting
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- '69 - '69 only dash - type with open ends
- Vertical bar at the speaker grille
- No grille at the back
- Open holes for the grab handle
- tabs across the back for mounting
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- '70 to '73 dash - type with open ends
- Plastic cover at the speaker grille
- No grille at the back
- Open holes for the grab handle
- No tabs across the back for mounting
I'll let the photos speak for themselfs ! Close up photos of them all there too !
Check them out at the Type 3 parts gallery
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notchback
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Some dash education |
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| BerT3 wrote: |
Some education:
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- '66 - '67 only dash - type with open ends
- No vertical bar at the speaker grille
- Grille at the back
- alu collarred holes for the grab handle
- tabs across the back for mounting
Check them out at the Type 3 parts gallery
BerT3 |
Wouldn't #2 also be correct for 1964/1965 "N" models that didn't use the wrap around design?
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PIMPPRIDE
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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if i remember correctly their is more then 4 variations over the years
for deluxe and non deluxe... ect...
it would take some real research ( vw museum ) to show all the little differences and exact year breakdowns
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notchboy
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I know there are at least 2 different types of wrap around. Early and late. But they are small differances and still fit.
Nice shot of them all! Back when I had several wrap arounds.
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Notched
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What? None in red?? 
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notchback
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| What? None in red?? |
or Teak.
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BerT3
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| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| Wouldn't #2 also be correct for 1964/1965 "N" models that didn't use the wrap around design? |
Think so too - anyone can confirm ?
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| What? None in red?? or Teak. |
Never ever seen one in real life over here in Europe !
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| I know there are at least 2 different types of wrap around. Early and late. But they are small differances and still fit. |
Didn't know that. Anyone knows exactly what's different ?
Photo of it ?
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67stang302
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Off topic but I have not been able to find the answer in any of my searchs.
Did the type 3 ever come with no dash pad? if so what year?
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Just so you know, #4 doesn't fit a 70, it's for a 71 to 73. A 70 uses the 69 style dash pad, due to still using an air box without a fan motor and torsion bars for the hood springs. I've got a 70 Fastback here (the wife's car) and I should know some of the little idiosychrocies (sp?) about them. 
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Off topic but I have not been able to find the answer in any of my searchs.
Did the type 3 ever come with no dash pad? if so what year? |
as far as I know, they all came with a dashpad -- all years...
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I took my dashpad off, I like the look!
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| Would a wrap around dashand and "s" door panels fit in a 68 ? |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| I know there are at least 2 different types of wrap around. Early and late. But they are small differances and still fit. |
the differences between the early and later are the foam filled insides right? the earlier cars have the more solid dashes and wrap pieces while the later 64/65 are hollow?
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Some dash education |
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| notchback wrote: |
| BerT3 wrote: |
Some education:
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- '66 - '67 only dash - type with open ends
- No vertical bar at the speaker grille
- Grille at the back
- alu collarred holes for the grab handle
- tabs across the back for mounting
Check them out at the Type 3 parts gallery
BerT3 |
Wouldn't #2 also be correct for 1964/1965 "N" models that didn't use the wrap around design? |
EVERY '66- '67 I've EVER seen had the vertical bar in the speaker grille, like #3.
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notchnem65
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#3 is for 1970's also
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| Helmut122 wrote: |
| Would a wrap around dashand and "s" door panels fit in a 68 ? |
You could probably make it work. The dash pad will fit, but a wraparound pad, the pieces that go throughout the car to match, doorpanels, and armrests will probably cost you more than you paid for your '68.
Also, divorce isn't cheap. 
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Wrap around?  |
Let me guess- you're under the 4th rock down Main after Avenue A, or something??? |
Sorry, I'll go and search. But I figger'd I'd ask, us being in dash edumacation and all. 
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| Wrap around? |
Let me guess- you're under the 4th rock down Main after Avenue A, or something??? |
Sorry, I'll go and search. But I figger'd I'd ask, us being in dash edumacation and all. |
Wraparounds have a pair of "horns" at the ends that mate up with the other wraparound pieces that are at the top of each inner panel from front to rear on early cars and "S" models. It gives the impression that the dash "wraps around" the entire interior of the car, hence the name. It's hard to see from Berts picture what the difference is. Go look at some "S" models or '62- 63 cars in the Gallery and you'll get the idea. 
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