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		| vw_hank Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:45 am    Post subject: speedo face |   |  
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				| I have A 1972 super, its A euro spec car but it has A MPH speedo, and I wont A KPH one, Is there anyone making/selling Just the face plate to do this? I did A search but didn't find anything.. |  | 
	
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		| DanKGMadrid Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:54 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I have exactly the same problem as of toady. I went for an MOT in Spain and failed because of the MPH speedo. I was thinking of buying a new speedo but the best option would be if some kind person is restoring their KPH speedo  put in onto a scanner and took an image. Any help out there? |  | 
	
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		| glutamodo  The Android
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Does it matter that your odometer will still read miles even if you change the faceplate?  If so, then you might be better off getting a KPH speedometer.   Or you could get a late-model (or replacement) Beetle speedo head that has both scales on the dial.  (beware though of busted-odometer-gear syndrome, very common on the later model speedo heads due to the plastic odometer drive gear they went to) 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:06 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks for your advice. I'm not bothered about the "miles" clocking up. Its just to pass the test. I can see your point though, could invalid any special "classic" car insurance that gives you a certain number of kilometres a year. I'd prefer to leave whats in there and just change the face. |  | 
	
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		| glutamodo  The Android
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:46 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The needles in the speedo heads from the mid 70s up can be very hard to remove without destroying them.  But earlier on they aren't as bad. But you do run into the problem of getting the needle pretension set up again once you're putting it back together (important if you want it to read accurately) 
 In the Gallery I found this photo of a later KPH speedo head, probably not a good enough image for what you were wanting though:
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:00 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks thats great. I'm probably going to take mine out and photograph it. A bit of photoshop to create a sort of "donut" shaped ring so that I don't have to remove the needle. |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Tiff document. |   |  
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				| Hope this helps. I'll try and print it out tommorow and let you know how it went. 
 
 
 The large image is here.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/48808081@N07/
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		| glutamodo  The Android
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:14 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Looks pretty good.  So where did you come up with the photo or photos you used to draw that up? 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks. Will need some tweaking I'm sure. I took the speedo out of my beetle and photographed it. Here is the original. 
 
 
 I used a ruler to get the measurements straight on the photoshop document.
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| you need to match the face with the type of speedo ie a 100mph speedo needs a 160km/h face where as the 90mph would need a 145/km/h face
 
 keep a look out on aus ebay and i think some of europe had KM/h speedos too
 
 they come up on ebay a fair bit here
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I have several KPH speedometer face plates for 1972+ speedometers if anyone needs one. PM me. _________________
 Midwest Autosavers, Inc. Crystal Lake, IL
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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PM sent.. If you can wate tell the end of the weak? 1972 & up is what I need 
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	  | I have several new KPH speedometer face plates for 1972+ speedometers if anyone needs one. PM me. |   |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:59 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | you need to match the face with the type of speedo ie a 100mph speedo needs a 160km/h face where as the 90mph would need a 145/km/h face
 
 keep a look out on aus ebay and i think some of europe had KM/h speedos too
 
 they come up on ebay a fair bit here
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 I hear what you are saying and thanks for the tip. I'll be changing the speedo as funds allow. Priority is to get this car through the test within a 10 days (or I'll be charged again!). It only failed on not having kph on the dial. Grrrr.
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well here is the first test version. I'll need to tweak it a little to fit at the top, but even if I do say so myself it looks pretty good. I'll do a decent matt colour print of the final version and if it works I'll send the post the image for whoever needs it. 
 Without glass in.
 
 
 
 
 With glass.
 
 
 
 I reckon it should fool the guys at the test station. I'll go rush hour.
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Dude that came out grate! |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:09 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | DanKGMadrid wrote: |  
	  | Well here is the first test version. I'll need to tweak it a little to fit at the top, but even if I do say so myself it looks pretty good. I'll do a decent matt colour print of the final version and if it works I'll send the post the image for whoever needs it. 
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 With glass.
 
 
 
 I reckon it should fool the guys at the test station. I'll go rush hour.
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 What kind of ink are you using to last long at all?
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:56 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I was thinking of getting the image processed by a photo lab. On matte paper. Not sure how long that could last though! |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I wonder if you can get waterproof laser shipping labels in larger sizes anymore, I've made adhesive decals on that kind of thing before, went to Kinkos and rented a computer upload my images and sent them to their best laser machine which they had set up properly to print on the label sheets I supplied them. |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | I wonder if you can get waterproof laser shipping labels in larger sizes anymore, . |  
 Office Max or Depot carries the full page sticky page.  just print it out with your home printer.
 
 you could get creative.  maybe the inspection guy would likey.
 
 
 
 not a great picture but after you apply the sticker then you can cut out for the odometer and fuel gauge and warning lights.
 
 demo.  i know the needle broke.
 
 
 
 
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