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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you were wondering, this is what a 917 engine looks like:
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys....
Thanks for all info. I will.try to.contact the guy who put the motor...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys....
I contacted the mechanic who did the work. He says the motor is in fact the original 2.0 fuel injected Volkswagon motor. Perhaps the owner is mistaken (?). It looks like I'm heading to Lousiana soon to look.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow did this thread ever get off the rails. To the Audi/VW engine crowd: I have access to those as well all manner 1.8 turd-blow's, v8/v6t's and the iconic 5cyl turbo's. If I were to do any I would do a 5 cyl turbo stroked to 2.5 liter with a gt40 and go out trolling for 997 twinturbo's Smile. The basis for the thought of a Porsche conversion was that the cache of popping the engine cover to reveal a jewel of an engine from a 3.2-3.6 air cooled would be nice. And as for water cooled a 3.4 -3.6 996 motor would work great in a vanagon power wise 270/290 hp with a similar amount of torque. Would make for a fun shop parts hauler/ race support van. There is no bragging rights for dumping in a 1.8t yes I know they are cheap/easy to work on blah blah blah but in the end you just have a pedestrian vehicle with some decent power. I like the wide eyed, gaping mouth expression a Porsche engined t3 would bring. Yes there may be faster vans etc but again it's the cache of the Porsche name that is at least half of the appeal for me. Since I have access to either I choose the one that has some impact.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1984urq wrote:
Wow did this thread ever get off the rails. To the Audi/VW engine crowd: I have access to those as well all manner 1.8 turd-blow's, v8/v6t's and the iconic 5cyl turbo's. If I were to do any I would do a 5 cyl turbo stroked to 2.5 liter with a gt40 and go out trolling for 997 twinturbo's Smile. The basis for the thought of a Porsche conversion was that the cache of popping the engine cover to reveal a jewel of an engine from a 3.2-3.6 air cooled would be nice. And as for water cooled a 3.4 -3.6 996 motor would work great in a vanagon power wise 270/290 hp with a similar amount of torque. Would make for a fun shop parts hauler/ race support van. There is no bragging rights for dumping in a 1.8t yes I know they are cheap/easy to work on blah blah blah but in the end you just have a pedestrian vehicle with some decent power. I like the wide eyed, gaping mouth expression a Porsche engined t3 would bring. Yes there may be faster vans etc but again it's the cache of the Porsche name that is at least half of the appeal for me. Since I have access to either I choose the one that has some impact.


FYI, that's 'cachet'.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been searching the web left and right, and cannot find any other picture of this amazing porsche powered vanagon... Edited:It has the complete Porsche Stability management (PSM or traction control)! All I found is these two pictures and a couple youtube videos. Any friends from germany has any leads? Any built pictures?

It just looks amazing too!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course, a Porsche motor does cache the oil ... in a tank, since it is a dry sump Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pedrokrusher wrote:
I've been searching the web left and right, and cannot find any other picture of this amazing porsche powered vanagon... All wheel drive! All I found is these two pictures and a couple youtube videos. Any friends from germany has any leads? Any built pictures?

It just looks amazing too!
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I doubt that is all wheel drive or a syncro, with a tank in the front.
There are many tuned vanagons in europe, lowering them and repowering is much more popular there.

Have a look on yuotube for the transporter treffen at hockenheim. Some Audi V8s, Claer porsche power, and stockers having fun.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

240Gordy wrote:
I doubt that is all wheel drive or a syncro, with a tank in the front.
There are many tuned vanagons in europe, lowering them and repowering is much more popular there..


A damit! My bad! Embarassed You are right its not all wheel drive. It has the complete Porsche Stability management (PSM or traction control). Info taken from this thread (Why you shouldn't race your VW T3): http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=376608&highlight=shouldnt+race

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Steelhead wrote:
Does that van really have Carrera S power plant?
this thing is awesome looking:


This is what a friend of mine had to say about that maroon van about two years ago:

"The maroon Westy is owned by a friend of mine, i've been in it at 240 kmh on a German Autobahn!!! Funny you noticed how well it handles, the reason is he fitted the complete Porsche Stability management (PSM or traction control) This is basically variable braking and is quite amazing. 3 years ago at Hockenheim he let me drive in a carpark ( not on the open road, shame!!) this carpark was wet and with full steering to the right ad foot to the floor on throttle the bus just went round in pefect circles without losing grip.The engine is limited and the wheel spin is controlled by the PSM. he keeps this switched on at all times round the track,This is why he's a bit slower than the other but never loses grip!!"



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Have a look on yuotube for the transporter treffen at hockenheim. Some Audi V8s, Claer porsche power, and stockers having fun.


Yup, I've seen most of them. This guys' been around for a while... So why there is no website? Is it "top secret"? Cool
Here is a youtube video in 2009, just listen... Shocked Shocked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05jKUAYi0hM
And here is some other videos in 2011... Exclamation Exclamation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USBgPS7LE4M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lc69mgEMgY&list=UUwI0GQNFDQ-7OcH9f5ALiaA&index=11
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the swiss race taxi. It is a transporter chassis with Porsche power and a splittie body.

There is a Finnish version as well. Both have poster build photos on their websites/blogs.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, this porsche powered vanagon was made by this company:
http://www.claer-automobile.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=60

You can click on the little brittish flag for english...

Here is a picture from an engine...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the porshe Vanagon was given the designation b2
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Eric's permission, posted his message here from the vanagon postal flares thread, plus 2 pictures under his name... Tx Eric.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=537163&start=100


Tristar Eric wrote:
This is Van belongs to Andreas, it's a Claer creation. The flares on this awesome Westfalia are of the Tristar variety. Claer massaged these to fit due to lowering the van and trimmed them to fit the side cladding. Look closely you can still see the lowered section of the flare in the corners of the arch.

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Modified front luggage rack for better aerodynamics + Beautiful bodykit + Nice wheels = Gorgeous vanagon!!!
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Crazy air scoop! That should help reduce some air intake noise by not running the air duck all the way up. Maybe I should put that in my TDI van?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So many things to love about that van.

The seam treatment being just one of them Exclamation
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So many things to love about that van.

The seam treatment being just one of them Exclamation


Absolutely the most beautiful van... And the engine fit for a king!
Yeah! I noticed some dark sealer thing there. What is that?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

240Gordy wrote:
And the swiss race taxi. It is a transporter chassis with Porsche power and a splittie body.


Andreas porsche maroon vanagon... And swiss taxi?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWLFGPl1Kdk
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is one more link to this thread for future reference. Its a porsche specialised shop:

http://www.sportsandclassic.com/index.php?page=portfolio

You will find a couple picks of a porsche engine in a vanagon half way down.



And of course latelly on thesamba this link...
http://flat6news.com/blog/porsche-turbocharged-flat-4-engine/

...was posted in this thread:
"YAECO (yet another engine conversion option)"
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=565540



Wow! Just imagine transplanting the whole package... A porsche flat four engine and a 6 speed tranny...
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