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djkeev Samba Moderator

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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:25 pm Post subject: Hardware for 2.1 Engine + Misc other locations |
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I'm rebuilding my 1986 2.1 WBX, during disassembly galvanic corrosion has claimed a few fasteners. The exhaust studs are much worse for wear as well.
I started pulling out the hardware to determine what sizes and hardness I needed and darn if I didn't end up cleaning and cataloging the whole mess of them!
Thought I'd post what I have here so that others seeking replacement hardware will not need to do the figuring I just completed.
All sizes are metric. The length was at times up for interpretation so what length I chose was very close, a few mm's either way most often will make no difference.
I've stumbled upon this web site which lists every piece of hardware needed. I usually just use Fastenal but may give this outfit a shot.......
https://www.belmetric.com/flange-bolts-jis-109-m8x125-flange-bolts-c-2_68.html
How the sizes are written.....
All bolts are standard Hex Head unless noted other wise, also all are machine threads unless noted otherwise.
Diameter x thread pitch x length ........ (Quantity)..... Brand...... Grade.........belmetric number
Rear Engine Carrier to Engine case
**** 10 x 1.5 x 85 ......... (2) .....KAMAX .... 8.8....BR10X85
**** 10 x 1.5 x 30 ......... (1) ..... 3F ........ 8.8.....BR10X30
**** Washers.... 10mm Wave Lock Washer ...... Quantity (3) ...WW10B
Rear Engine Carrier motor mounts
**** 8 x 1.25 Nuts ........ (4) ....... W ..... 8 ... NR8
Rear motor mounts to steel Cross Member
**** 10 x 1.5 x 50 ......(4) ..........KHS ....... 8.8 .... BR10X50P
**** 10mm x 1.5 Nuts ..... (4) ...... W .................. NR10
**** Washers .... None
Steel Cross Member to Body
**** 8 x 1.25 x 30 ........(4) .....B*T ........10.9 .... ALL THREADED.. BH8X30
**** 8mm Washers........ (4) ......... Extremely Thick .... WC8X20
**** 8 x 1.25 Lock Nuts ..... (4) ..... W ..CLASS 10 LOCK NUT .... NNH8
**** Double Drilled Steel Plate ......(2)
Oil Fill Tube to Case
**** 8 x 1.25 Nuts ....... (2) ....... W .... 8 ... NR8
**** 8mm Wave Washers (2)...................... WW8
**** 8 x 1.25 x 35 Stud .. (2) .................... S8X35F
Power Steering Pump to Bracket
**** 8 x 1.25 x 30 ......(1) .......KAMAX .... 8.8 ..... ALL THREADED .. BR8X30
**** 8mm Wave Washer .... (1) ...... WW8
**** 8mm Fender Washer ...(1) ....... WFE8X24
**** 10 x 1.5 x 70 ...........(1) ..... CARRIAGE BOLT .. NA
**** 10mm Nut ............(1) ........ H ... 8 .... NR10
**** 10mm Wave Washer .... (1) ................ WW10B
Power Steering Bracket to Engine
**** 8 x 1.25 x 30 .......(2) ........ KAMAX ...... 8.8 ... BR8X30
**** 8 x 1.25 x 55 .......(1) ........ KAMAX ...... 8.8 ... BR8X55
**** 8mm Heavy Flat Washer ... (3) ....................... WC8X20
Power Steering Reservoir to Body
**** 8 x 1.25 x 15 .......(2) ....... ESKA ......8.8 ... BR8X16
Power Steering pipe to Flexible hose to Pump Mount
**** 2 Rubber mounts, 6 x 1.0 Studs on each end
**** 6 x 1.0 Nuts........(4) ....... M ....... 8 .......... NR6
**** 6 x 1.0 x 15 ...... (1) ............3F ...... 8.8 ... BR6X16
Coil / Relay Bracket
**** 6 x 1.0 x 10 ...... (2) .......... ?.........8.8 .... BR6X10
**** 6mm Fender Washer ..... (2) .................... WFE6X18
**** size 10 x 1/2" Sheet Metal Screw, Phillips Head ...... (1)
Ground Wires to Body by Coil
**** 6 x 1.0 x 10 ......(2) ........... ? ....... 8.8 ... BR6X10
**** 6mm Flat Washer .... (2) ........................ WF6
While these were not installed, I choose to do so to provide a more secure ground using these external star washers.
*******6mm External Star Washer ..... (4) .....WSE6
Coolant Pressure Tank to Body
**** 5.5 x 10 Sheet Metal Screw ..... (2).......
**** 6mm Flat Washer ....... (2) .................. WF6
Coolant Fill Tank
**** 6 x 1.0 x 12 ....... (2) ......... ? ........ 8.8 .... BR6X12
**** 6mm Flat Washer ....(2) ............................ WF6
I choose to use Stainless Steel here because these bolt heads are outside of the body by the back bumper, mine were badly rusted.....
****** 6 x 1.0 x 12 .....(2) ....... BR6X12SS
****** 6mm Flat Washer .. (2) .. WF6SS
Water Pump
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**** 8 x 1.25 x 44 Stud .... (3) ...................... S8X43 or S8X46
Coolant Pipe Right Side of Case to Water Pump
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut.............. (2) ....................... NR8
**** 8mm Flat Washer ....... (2) ...................... WF8
**** 8 x 1.25 x 35 Stud...... (2) ...................... S8X35F
Oil Tower top of Case
**** 6 x 1.0 Nut ...............(4) ...... M .....8 ......... NR6
**** 6mm Fender Washer .. (4) ........................... WFE6X18
**** 6 x 1.0 x 36 Stud.... (4) ............................. S6X35FULL
Mechanical Fuel Pump Block off Plate
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut .......(2) ........ M .......8 ......... NR8
**** 8mm Wave Washer .. (2) .......................... WW8
**** 8 x 1.25 x 48 Stud ... (2) .......................... S8X35F
Ground Screws to Head
**** 6 x 1.0 x 15 ....... (2) ........... ? ....... 8.8 ... BR6X16
**** 6mm Flat Washer .... (2) ........................... WF6
Air Conditioner Mounting to Steel Adjustment Bracket
**** 8 x 1.25 x 30 ...... (1) ........ CARRIAGE BOLT .. NA
**** 8 x 1.25 x 65 .......(1) ........ ALL THREADED ... BR8X60F
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut ........(2) ........MF ....... 8 ....NR8
**** 8mm Thick Flat Washer (2) ....................WC8X20
**** 10 x 1.5 x 45 ........(1) .....PL ...... 8.8 .... ALLEN HEAD .. BSH10X45
**** 10 x 1.5 x 37 ........ (1) ....PL .......8.8 .... ALLEN HEAD .. BSH10X35
**** 10mm Flat Washer ....(2) ...................... WF10
Aluminum Air Conditioner Bracket to Engine
**** 10 x 1.5 x 50 ......(2) .... GRAEKA... 8.8 ... BR10X50P
**** 10 x 1.5 x 145 ....(1) .... ? ........ 8.8 ... ALLEN BOLT ... Grade 10.9 .. BSH10X140
**** 10 x 1.5 x 40 ......(1) ..... ? ....... 8.8 .. ALLEN BOLT ... Grade 10.9 .. BSH19X40
**** 10mm Thick Washer ... (4) ................... WC10X25
Air Conditioner Steel Adjustment Bracket to Aluminum Bracket
**** 8 x 1.25 x 70 ......(1) ......? .......? ....... Carriage Bolt...... NA
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut .......(1) .....MF ...... 8 ........ NR8
Auto Transmission Mounting
**** 10 x 1.5 x 25 .......(2) ....... 3F ....... 8.8 ...... BR10x25
**** 10mm Thick Washer .... (3) ........................ WC10X20
**** 10 x 1.5 Nut .......(2) ................................. NR10
**** 10 x 1.5 x 100 .......(1) .......3F ....... 8.8 ..... BR10X100
**** 8 x 1.25 x 15 ........(3) .......ESKA ...... 8.8 ... BR8X16
Radiator Lower Mount Brackets
**** 8 x 1.25 x 17 ....... (4) ...... ESKA ..... 8.8 ... BR8X16
**** 8mm Thick Washer .... (4) ......................... WC8X20
Engine to Automatic Transmission
**** 10 x 1.5 x 40 ...... (1) ........3F ......... 8.8 .. BR10X40P
**** 10 x 1.5 Nut ........(3) ........M .... 8 ........... NR10
**** 10mm Wave Washer ... (4) ....................... WW10B
Spare Tire Carrier
**** 12 x 1.5 x 35 ...... (1) ........DERA...... 8.8 ... BFT12X1.5X35
**** 12mm heavy Fender Washer ... (1).............. WFE12X36
Exhaust Studs
**** 8 x 1.25 x 40 ..... (8 ) ....... Stud ......... S8X38E or S8X43
**** mine had some bolts..... If you wish....... 8 x 1.25 x 30 .... 8.8..BR8X30
**** 8 x 1.25 BRASS NUTS ..... (8 ) ................... NC8X13 or NC8X12
**** 10mm x 8mm Step Stud ...........................S8X19X35 or S8X10X38
Coolant Pipe to Water Pump
**** 8 x 1.25 x 25 .... (2) .... INDRA ..... 8.8 ..... ALLEN HEAD .. BSH8X25
**** 8mm Heavy Flat Washer ...... (2) ..... WC8X20
Water Pump Pulley
**** 8 x 1.25 x 15 ....... (3) ....... ESKA ...... 8.8 ... BR8X16
Water Pipe to Right Head
**** 8 x 1.25 x 22 ....(2) .........3F ...... 8.8 .... BR8X20
**** 8mm Wave Washer .... (2) ..................... WW8
Intake Manifold to Head
**** 8 x 1.25 x 75 .... (4) ......... KHS ...... 8.8 ... BR8X75
**** 8mm Heavy Flat Washer ....(4) .................. WC8X20
Injector Holder to Intake Manifold
**** 6 x 1.0 x 10 .....(2) ........3F ....... 8.8 ...... BR6X10
**** 6mm external Star Washer ... (2) ............ WSE6
Throttle Posistioner Plug to Intake Manifold
**** 6mm Nut ........(1) ......... M ....... 8 ......... NR6
Torque Convertor to Flex Plate
**** 8 x 1.25 x 10 .....(3) ........ FS .......12.9 ..... Flange Bolt......NA only grade 10.9 is available....... BF8X12 not recommended, source used Bolt or visit local transmission shop.
Alternator Bracket To Engine
**** recommend adding GoWesty's Modification or Similar Fix as you see fit.
**** 8 x 1.25 Nuts ......(3) ......................... NR8
**** 8mm Wave Washer... (3) ..................... WW8
**** 8 x 1.25 x 35 Stud ... (3) ..................... S8X35F
Alternator to Adjustment Bracket
**** 8 x 1.25 x 30 ...... (1) ...... FS ...... 8.8 ....Flange Bolt.... NA only grade 10.9 is available ...... BF8X30F
**** 8 x 1.25 x 75 .......(1) ......P/S ......8.8 ....Carriage Bolt... NA
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut ....... (1) ......MF ... 8 ....... NR8
Exhaust Muffler Heat Shield
Engine Heat Shields
**** 8 x 1.25 x 18 ....(4) ..... ESKA ...... 8.8 ....... BR8X16
**** 8mm Flat Washer .... (2) ........................... WF8
**** 8mm Fender Washer .. (2) ......................... WFE8X20
**** 6 x 1.0 x 15 ............(4) ..... ESKA ... 8.8 ...
**** 6mm Fender Washer .. (4) ......................... WFE6X18
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut ...............(1) ......................... NR8
**** 6.5 x 12 Loose Washer Hex Head Sheet Metal Screw ... (4) .. ST6.5X20
**** 6.5 x 15 Hex Head Sheet Metal Screw ....... (10) ...... NA use ST6.5X20
Exhaust Muffler Mounting
**** 8 x 1.25 x 38 ....... (4) ...... 3F ...... 8.8 ....... BR8X40P
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut .........(4) ....... M .......8 .......... NR8
**** 8mm x 18 Fender Washer .. (8 ).................. WFE8X20
**** 8 x 1.25 x 50 ........ (2) .......? ......8.8 ......... BR8X50
**** 8mm Flat Washer ...(4) ............................... WF8
Exhaust Joint Hardware
Electrical Connector Box Mounting Left Front Engine Compartment
**** 5 x .8 x 15 ........ (3) ....... Thread #2 Phillips Pan Head Screw .... MSP5X16
Idle Speed Control Relay Mounting
Coolant Distribution Connector mounting
**** 6 x 15 Self Tapping Hex Head Screw, double helix for Plastic ....... (2) ....... NA
Fuel Line Fitting Into Engine Compartment
**** 6 x 15 Self Tapping Sheet Metal Screw ..... (2) ...... NA
Intake Distribution Box Mounting to case Studs
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut ........... (1) .......... M ..... 8 ...... NR8
**** 8mm Flat Washer .... (1) ............................. WF8
**** 10 x 1.25 x 90 ........ (1) ............................. NA
**** 10 x 1.25 Nut .......... (1) ........ M ....... 8 ..... NR10X1.25
**** 10mm Flat Washer ... (1) ............................ WF10 _________________ Stop Dead Photo Links how to post photos
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Thanks! That one goes in my VW file for future reference. |
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awesome idea for a post. thank you. _________________ '90 Carat w/ '95 phase 1 EJ22 OBD2 conversion |
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Or you can down load ETKA |
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Hardware for 2.1 Engine + Misc other locations |
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djkeev wrote: |
I'm rebuilding my 1986 2.1 WBX, during disassembly... |
What a fantastic post, I was looking for motor mount bolt sizes and got that and so much more, thanks djkeev! _________________ ‘88 2wd Auto Westy project |
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djkeev wrote: |
A most excellent site! Bookmarked, joined and I will print out everything they have listed for my 86 Vanagon during the next week! (I do NOT trust cyberspace, things seem to simply VANISH!)
Dave |
As predicted, it appears the site has vanished. Does anyone know if the info is currently available elsewhere? _________________ ‘88 2wd Auto Westy project |
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Al, you missed it by one post above…update shown:
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Hardware for 2.1 Engine + Misc other locations |
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UpVote this to Sticky, awesome info, might be hard for me to remember the title when I need to search back for it.
Thanks! _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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