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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: Crossing the Canada/US border with guns Reply with quote

Doug , it's a pleasure to engage someone some distance away from my position on this issue in such a civilized way.

The problem as I see it is to benefit society you need a combination of gun use training and then also combat training. All of my relatives get both, but they are all NYPD. Of the people I know who carry and are not NYPD, 1:20 have both sets of skills

Your mileage will drastically vary by locality of course.

We had a jeweler in town who chased two smash and grab perps into a mall parking lot, then laid down fire at their vehicle. Gulp. ( every single gun license in his household was revoked. )
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossing the Canada/US border with guns Reply with quote

This post has gotten way off of the original post ( which the Mod charged the title) First, not every CCP or CWP is used to repeal the bad guy, some states require it to remove your handgun from your home, whether to go to the range or the Gun shop or smith. If the Border Agent asks if you have weapons in the vehicle and you reply "no" , they still can search, I see no reason to ask you if you have a licensed permit in the USA to carry a firearm which warrants it to a mandatory search in Canada.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossing the Canada/US border with guns Reply with quote

Hey, they run their borders like they see fit; we run our borders like we see fit.

My guess is they've had a rash of jokers lately who think their CCP means something in an entirely different country.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossing the Canada/US border with guns Reply with quote

Bassyaks wrote:
This post has gotten way off of the original post ( which the Mod charged the title) First, not every CCP or CWP is used to repeal the bad guy, some states require it to remove your handgun from your home, whether to go to the range or the Gun shop or smith. If the Border Agent asks if you have weapons in the vehicle and you reply "no" , they still can search, I see no reason to ask you if you have a licensed permit in the USA to carry a firearm which warrants it to a mandatory search in Canada.


Border agents have wide latitude to search persons/vehicles with or without probable cause/reasonable suspicion. I have crossed the US/Canada border many, many, times and never been asked if I have a CCP. Maybe its a regional thing? But there have nevertheless been numerous cases of Americans with CCPs attempting to cross into Canada armed. Maybe CBSA has determined it is enough of a problem for them to ask.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossing the Canada/US border with guns Reply with quote

The answer is quite simple, don't bring guns into a neighboring jurisdiction that bans guns.

NJ bans fireworks, you can buy them literally feet from the NJ border in Pennsylvania.
NJ has actually stationed personnel near the Pennsylvania stores radioing license plates across the Delaware, they are pulled over and the illegal fireworks are dealt with.

Colorado and other isolated States have legal pot, can you carry it across the neighboring States border and be immune from that States laws?

Of course not.

I pissed off a Border agent once by wanting to walk back to the border with Canada and take a picture of a historic tavern straddling the border from the days of prohibition. Legal to drink in Canada, walk across the room and get your drink, consume it and walk back into the US to eat dinner.
I did not get my photo because of his (USA) threats to me.

Know the laws of where you are going and obey them, it's that simple.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossing the Canada/US border with guns Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossing the Canada/US border with guns Reply with quote

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