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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:32 am    Post subject: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

Are the ill fitting dansk the best stock option? Thatís about all Iím seeing at the usual online parts supply.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

There is a NOS Leistritz made in W. Germany in the classifieds to check on .
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

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There is a NOS Leistritz made in W. Germany in the classifieds to check on .

The 40hp exhaust is compatible to the 1600DP?
Please excuse my ignorance
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

no, 40 HP are narrower.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

The Leistritz come up regularly on ebay for ~$100. I bought several.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

oibovveroi wrote:
Are the ill fitting dansk the best stock option? Thatís about all Iím seeing at the usual online parts supply.


Ill fitting is a very bad option, an old used correct fitting one is better. dont settle for ill fitting.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

60ragtop wrote:
no, 40 HP are narrower.


yes, short stroke verses long stroke cranks change over all motor width, hence side to side distence between the heads and their exhaust ports. the 40 horse had a shorter stroke.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

Is there a difference between one online dealers $75. Dansk and the other $135 dansk muffler?
I have a German one. But itís from the 70s maybe early 80s and very crusty. No holes, but I donít know if it still has any inerds left.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

The ad I speak of is in the 1968 and up section . I did a search for muffler in the 1968 parts section . The sticker on the muffler says 1300 cc to 1600 cc . I do know a 40 hp muffler won't fit a 1600 engine .
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

I just installed a Bosal unit, great fit, sounds a bit throatier than an original German one but still gets a bit of that original "fweem" under acceleration.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

Just got a Dansk in the mail. I don't know what people are complaining about. The parts lined up pretty well.

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Of course, that took a little persuasion. . .


And quite a bit of heat and brass.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

Cheburashka wrote:
Just got a Dansk in the mail. I don't know what people are complaining about. The parts lined up pretty well.
Of course, that took a little persuasion. . .
And quite a bit of heat and brass.
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I just don't believe anyone should have to do THAT MUCH work to an exhaust to get a good fit.. straight out of the box. I bought a Dansk exhaust for my early bay and it was the same way. It needed too much work and I was never happy with how my engine performed with it on there. My biggest pet peeve is the fresh air pre-heaters. They were so far off that I finally had to yank them out altogether and run the fresh air tubes straight to the heater box. I even tried to use the preheaters from a stock VW muffler, but the pipe shape and geometry is different enough that they wouldn't go on the aftermarket exhaust at all.


There are no good stock options that I personally know of.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

Just buy this one and be done with it:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2187438
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

I just checked out the reviews on the Bosal muffler. It seems that TDC may be into something. The manufacturer brags about the perfect fit. They also mention quality, too; but a good fit is a good start.

So ... when the time comes, Iím going to give the Bolton a shot. It certainly canít be worse than Dansk, and it might deliver the quality and fit the mention.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

TDCTDI wrote:
I just installed a Bosal unit, great fit, sounds a bit throatier than an original German one but still gets a bit of that original "fweem" under acceleration.


RockAuto's got those:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1080376&cc=1368851&jsn=387
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

Just a simple question I'm wondering...

Why are all the aftermarket mufflers' preheat tubes for the heat riser on the opposite side as the original VW?

They are all on the right side, the original VW was on the left:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

sb001 wrote:
Just a simple question I'm wondering...

Why are all the aftermarket mufflers' preheat tubes for the heat riser on the opposite side as the original VW?

They are all on the right side, the original VW was on the left:

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Maybe the switch was to consolidate the manufacturing lines of the mufflers once the Mexican Beetle got the spin-on filter oil pump? I know that pump/filter combo won't clear the left-hand preheat tube, maybe VW just began making all of the mufflers with it on the right to avoid having two different parts being made? and the aftermarket followed suit as well?

Just a guess
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

FWIW, that tube is actually the return. On the pictured exhaust, the manifold actually gets itís heat from the port directly on the #2 exhaust flange, it then flows through the heat riser then through that tube to return to the exhaust flow at the lower pressure side of the exhaust system.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

TDCTDI wrote:
FWIW, that tube is actually the return. On the pictured exhaust, the manifold actually gets itís heat from the port directly on the #2 exhaust flange, it then flows through the heat riser then through that tube to return to the exhaust flow at the lower pressure side of the exhaust system.


Aah.
So then would it make any difference that the return tube is on the opposite side on all these aftermarket units?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: Current stock muffler options? Reply with quote

sb001 wrote:
TDCTDI wrote:
FWIW, that tube is actually the return. On the pictured exhaust, the manifold actually gets itís heat from the port directly on the #2 exhaust flange, it then flows through the heat riser then through that tube to return to the exhaust flow at the lower pressure side of the exhaust system.


Aah.
So then would it make any difference that the return tube is on the opposite side on all these aftermarket units?

No sir, the manifold just needs one side to have a higher pressure on one side so that the exhaust wants to flow through it.
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