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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

vwracerdave wrote:
I wish CB would redo their entire listings of cams. It is very difficult to understand what they offer and compare all their cams together to make a choice. I don't ever buy CB cams because the way they list them in groups is too difficult to navigate.

I hope Pat Downs reads this. CB website listing of their cams sucks.


I agree. Good cams, but hard to wade through them on their site. This list makes it a little easier, but it is still missing some important numbers, and some of the cams listed dont jive with CB's site.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

I started to do a Cam Chart in excel. You can sort by Cam lift, or any other drop down. I put in formulas to calculate all rocker sizes available based upon the cam lift. If anyone wants to finish and add all the cams, PM me and I can send the file.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

That is genius jpaull. Exactly what is needed.

Click on the duration @ .05" and see all the cams available for your desired specs in one spot and compare them easily.

Well done.

Now someone with more time and computer smarts then me finish it for us!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

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While in this cam discussion has anyone an idea of who ground this one? I've look everywhere!


I'm pretty sure it's a Schneider. There was a thread on that number a few weeks back if I'm not mistaken.


Could be, but I emailed it to Schneider and they said it wasn't theirs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

They have not made a post on STF in a long time but you could try to message them. If they state information in detail ,I doubt they don't know what they are talking about but maybe they misspoke.

http://shoptalkforums.com/memberlist.php?mode=view...fdcbd2e2df

Post on the cam is here:
http://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=93140
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

The FK10 does not match the catalog specs.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

No mention of Engle's V-26, just Berg's version, the GB 309. Is it no longer relevant?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

You can still get the V-26 directly from Engle.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mark, if you have any of the crane, comp, crower, erson, clay, isky or any other old school grind numbers I will gladly add them
Thanks

i found this very old crane cam timing card in a box today. the cam is collecting dust on a bookshelf in the living room.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

I too have an old Crane Cam card.

I'll do my best to get things correct;

VW-282-NC clearance intake .04, ex. .06

intake @ CAM 360/407 with 1.13 ratio
exhaust @ CAM 360/407 with 1.13 ratio

cam timing @ .014 tappet lift intake opens 40 btdc, closes 62 abdc, 282 dur
exhaust opens 72 bbdc, closes 30 atdc 282 dur

cam timing @ .050 tappet lift intake opens 19 btdc closes 41 abdc 240 dur
exhaust " 51bbdc " 111 btdc 240 dur
No figures for Crane spring requirements or rpm figures given
Part # 760-0014
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

The .050 EC number doesn't work. Too many 1's. Using 10 or 11 the math works. Smile

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I too have an old Crane Cam card.

I'll do my best to get things correct;

VW-282-NC clearance intake .04, ex. .06

intake @ CAM 360/407 with 1.13 ratio
exhaust @ CAM 360/407 with 1.13 ratio

cam timing @ .014 tappet lift intake opens 40 btdc, closes 62 abdc, 282 dur
exhaust opens 72 bbdc, closes 30 atdc 282 dur

cam timing @ .050 tappet lift intake opens 19 btdc closes 41 abdc 240 dur
exhaust " 51bbdc " 111 btdc 240 dur
No figures for Crane spring requirements or rpm figures given
Part # 760-0014
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

What does small, medium and large displacement really mean in cc for air cooled VW engines?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

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What does small, medium and large displacement really mean in cc for air cooled VW engines?


I’m thinking you are inquiring more tward the larger sized Type 2/4 engines of the later Bay Buses from your user name/avatar, but this thread is more along the lines of the Beetle/Type 1 engines. As far as they are concerned; imo small is 1915cc’s or less, medium is 1956-2110, and large is 2180-2386. These are the most common. There are 2442’s, 2498’s, and even 2789’s but the cost of the cranks, piston/cyl sets, case, and heads able to utilize the extra cc’s grow exponentially in price.

Maybe someone else can elaborate on the 2 liter based Bay Bus engines?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

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itsawesty wrote:
What does small, medium and large displacement really mean in cc for air cooled VW engines?


I’m thinking you are inquiring more tward the larger sized Type 2/4 engines of the later Bay Buses from your user name/avatar, but this thread is more along the lines of the Beetle/Type 1 engines. As far as they are concerned; imo small is 1915cc’s or less, medium is 1956-2110, and large is 2180-2386. These are the most common. There are 2442’s, 2498’s, and even 2789’s but the cost of the cranks, piston/cyl sets, case, and heads able to utilize the extra cc’s grow exponentially in price.

Maybe someone else can elaborate on the 2 liter based Bay Bus engines?


thanks, i was curious to know what the 2276 i have going in my lowlight would be categorised as.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

norris wrote:
While in this cam discussion has anyone an idea of who ground this one? I've look everywhere!

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That looks like a Bob Walters Dial-in-Cam. I have one in my engine and I also couldn't find anything online about it. You can find Dial-in-Cam advertisements in Hot VWs or VW trends magazines from the mid to late eighties. The ad I remember was for inline-4 VW water-cooled engines and won't help you decode your cam.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

the Autocraft 9526: The 297deg is at .050" lift. (not advertized).
It is a pro-stock cam.
Powerband from 5,500-10,000rpm.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

Hello, I realize this thread is old but wondering if anyone is out there to help identify another random cam and/or crank maker(s)?

I recently cracked open a "mystery engine" finding a lot of nice parts inside but cannot identify the crank or cam makers.

Engine was a 84x94, blow through dual dellorto 40mm carbs. 84mm crank was welded & offset ground based on a late model type one crank w/ VW and Audi stampings. It has "ECS 84" stamped on end counterweight and it's also wedgemated to a stock weight flywheel (STD/STD perfect condition).

The hydrolic cam has "4 6853 / P 7" stamping. I marked the lifters order prior to splitting the case, their faces look smooth and reusable and cam lobes do too. I believe the lifters are Chevy type as the lifter bores in case are way oversized plus 6x center shuffle pins, full flowed, drilled and tapped oil galleys & welded behind #3 = "super case" as we used to call them. It had 1:4 rockers and .300" super thick shims under the Mahle barrels. Heads are mismatched, assuming one melted down and was replaced at some point: clearly different combustion chamber volumes and shapes from one head to the other...

Planning on alignbore, all new bearings, new heads and bolting it back together BUT would really like to know more about the cam or crank.

Thank you guys!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Complete Guide to Performance VW Camshafts Reply with quote

When I hear large displacement/hydraulic cam, Bernie Bergmann comes to mind. His magazine ads had a lot of flashy stuff in them, like bright colored engine tins and Porsche fan shrouds,full circle cranks, etc....
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