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expo1122
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 Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: '82 vs. '83 diesel engine carrier bar differences |
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Resurrecting an old post, but I'm in need of an answer. I'm swapping out my 1982 carrier bars for 1983 bars.
The engine position moves in the engine bay, for the transmission mount is this position change done by the rubber isolater that bolts to the body, or is it done by the bracket that bolts to the transmission?
I need to know which part I can keep and which part I need to hunt down. Or it simply just moving the body bracket to pre existing holes in the body?
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?Waldo?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: '82 vs. '83 diesel engine carrier bar differences |
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The '83 bars moved the engine rearward in order to accommodate the longer 5-speed DX transaxle. The DX nose mount is also different from the 4-speed version.
Why are you swapping the carrier bars?
What transaxle are you going to be using?
If you are planning on using the 091/1 4-speed (WBX) and later shift linkage then the front nose mount should align without issue. If you are keeping an '82 diesel or air-cooled trans then things will not align without modification to the nose mount and the shift linkage.
Hopefully crazyvwvanman will chime in with added insight. |
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T3messie
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:58 am Post subject: Re: '82 vs. '83 diesel engine carrier bar differences |
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The position change is done by the transmission part of the bracket.
You will have to fab a custom bracket to make the "old" gearbox work with the "new" engine carrier bars. The shift linkage needs extension also. |
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Vanagon Nut
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:30 am Post subject: Re: '82 vs. '83 diesel engine carrier bar differences |
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I'm swapping out my 1982 carrier bars for 1983 bars.
The engine position moves in the engine bay, for the transmission mount is this position change done by the rubber isolater that bolts to the body, or is it done by the bracket that bolts to the transmission?
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Is your Vanagon an '82 Diesel or?
I don't know about the Syncro but AFAIK, on the 2WD, the early and late style bars each mount at the same spots on frame and rear apron. The engine (drivetrain) fore/aft position difference is determined by the transmission length and transmission front mount.
A bunch of images I took while measuring difference between the air cooled and WBX transmissions:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dlDZjpMEfLFzpHoB2
If you're changing the bars to accommodate a WBX transmission, I think the WBX rear shift rod section can be adapted to the 80-83.0 air cooled/diesel front shift rod. ..... I think.
IIRC, for the early style shift linkage, the formerly NLA front shift rod bushing that installs above the fuel tank, is available. One reason I updated my '81 to a WBX tranny and entire WBX linkage was b/c at that time, it appeared that bushing was NLA; I wanted to invest in the later tech.
Neil.
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