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davebuckholts
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 Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:32 am Post subject: Accelerator cable.... |
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Isn't there suppose to be a sleeve for the acc. cable from where it exits the tube in the back to the front of the engine tin? I have to replce my pressure plate and notice the acc. cable cutting into my bellhousing.
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TeamSpatula
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There should be a sleeve that goes through the fan shroud housing, but I've never seen one between that tube and the main cable housing. Maybe the end of the tube is crooked, and is aiming the cable incorrectly so it rubs?
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Clara 
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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| davebuckholts wrote: |
| Isn't there suppose to be a sleeve for the acc. cable from where it exits the tube in the back to the front of the engine tin? I have to replce my pressure plate and notice the acc. cable cutting into my bellhousing. |
you can either use old gas line, or get a bowden tube for a bug and shorten the bug tube 1/2 inch. having the tube makes the pedal feel nicer, as well as protecting the tranny.
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Andrew
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:51 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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| Clara wrote: |
| davebuckholts wrote: |
| Isn't there suppose to be a sleeve for the acc. cable from where it exits the tube in the back to the front of the engine tin? I have to replce my pressure plate and notice the acc. cable cutting into my bellhousing. |
you can either use old gas line, or get a bowden tube for a bug and shorten the bug tube 1/2 inch. having the tube makes the pedal feel nicer, as well as protecting the tranny. |
I just went to Home Depot and got a piece of flexible tubing. Been working fine for me. The old gas line idea is pretty good, though, as most people will have that lying around after changing their gas lines.
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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| davebuckholts wrote: |
| Isn't there suppose to be a sleeve for the acc. cable from where it exits the tube in the back to the front of the engine tin? I have to replce my pressure plate and notice the acc. cable cutting into my bellhousing. |
Hi Dave,
No & Yes. Try this info we posted on the type2.com vintage bus list, and now in the archives there:
http://www.type2.com/archive/vintagebus/064591.html
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Thompson2
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| Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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| Clara wrote: |
| davebuckholts wrote: |
| Isn't there suppose to be a sleeve for the acc. cable from where it exits the tube in the back to the front of the engine tin? I have to replce my pressure plate and notice the acc. cable cutting into my bellhousing. |
you can either use old gas line, or get a bowden tube for a bug and shorten the bug tube 1/2 inch. having the tube makes the pedal feel nicer, as well as protecting the tranny. |
So I picked up one of the bug tubes and was set to trim it as described, but wanted to see if there was a particular method to the madness. Just hack off 1/2” of the straight end? I tried to pull the end off and trim just the sleeve, but it won’t come off without some struggle... should I wrestle it off?
And how critical is the 1/2”? On the straight end, it necks down at 10mm... is that sufficient?
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:15 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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Then install the accelerator bowden tube, and if too long, the cable will be too short.
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Thompson2
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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| Then install the accelerator bowden tube, and if too long, the cable will be too short. |
Is there a portion of your response missing or have I not had enough coffee? Not sure what you're saying... I get the part about if the tube is too long the cable will be too short... but you started with "Then"... was there a lead in that got lost? |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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| Thompson2 wrote: |
And how critical is the 1/2”? On the straight end, it necks down at 10mm... is that sufficient? |
The last post was mostly referring to the above. The only way to tell for sure is to install and see if it all works out or the accelerator bowden tube needs to be shortened.
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Major Woody
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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Pull the sheath out of the straight crimped end, not the flared end. You may need to jam a screwdriver around there to uncrimp it a bit. It will not be a surgical process...more violence will be required. Whatever damage you do to the sheath will be hidden when reinserted into the crimp.
If you want to be 100% sure of how much to shorten it, then reinstall the engine and test-fit the sheath until it fits with only a tiny amount of slack. I used the recommended amount posted here by Clara and it worked fine. |
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Thompson2
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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| Eric&Barb wrote: |
| Thompson2 wrote: |
And how critical is the 1/2”? On the straight end, it necks down at 10mm... is that sufficient? |
The last post was mostly referring to the above. The only way to tell for sure is to install and see if it all works out or the accelerator bowden tube needs to be shortened. |
Makes sense. I'm hoping to avoid having to pull / reinstall. |
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Thompson2
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:38 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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| Major Woody wrote: |
| Pull the sheath out of the straight crimped end, not the flared end. |
Yup... straight end was my focus last night... Made the most sense.
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| You may need to jam a screwdriver around there to uncrimp it a bit. It will not be a surgical process...more violence will be required. |
That was what I was wondering about the process side of it. Just didn't want to screw it up and have to order a new tube and revisit this... ready to get her out on the road before the rain starts in earnest. |
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tasb
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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Like this?:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2294939
as far as I am aware there isn't a reproduction out there.
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rking6
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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I just installed (Throttle Cable Rollers by Butty Bits) it solved my Bell housing from being scared by the cable on my 1963 EZ..... Check it out...
Resto Bus Parts [email protected]
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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Try a WWW search for "VW 111721551". Found airheadparts has a supply of new ones.
Updated for future searches:
131721551
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Thompson2
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Leica356
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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| So there are two different length tubes for the beetle. 623mm and 610mm. Is the 610mm the one that needs to be shortened 1/2 inch to fit a bus? |
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ted698
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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I just slipped a length of standard 6mm nylon airhose over the throttle cable.
Its not fixed either end, but long enough to stop the cable sawing its way into the gearbox.
Cheap and effective. |
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Tahlequah
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator cable.... |
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| i put one on and didnt know to cut until i read this, was planning on removing because it's pushing my front engine tin open when i hit the gas. ty samba nerds |
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