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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Merian wrote: |
how long does that O-ring usually last? |
The ones without the nubs either failed along with the headgaskets of the WBX many moons ago and both were updated at the dealer under warranty, or like my 91 Syncro...lasted up until about a week ago.
I could not find any mention of it in the receipts that came with the van so I assume it was factory.
The van did sit over 10 years in a barn, so it didnt heat cycle much during those years. |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7758 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Just completed my cooler o-ring "party pack":
- 27mm deep socket
- T55 bit
- spare o-ring
- Loctite 518
...all packed in the van & ready for the road. Thanks again, Dylan!
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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dhaavers wrote: |
Just completed my cooler o-ring "party pack":
- 27mm deep socket
- T55 bit
- spare o-ring
- Loctite 518
...all packed in the van & ready for the road. Thanks again, Dylan!
- Dave |
Now that's a party. |
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CarlSpackler Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2005 Posts: 665 Location: Mason, Ohio
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:06 am Post subject: |
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I was set to do this last night but my T55 torx bit is way too small. It just slips in and out of the ID of the pick up tube with no interference to grab the inside of the tube. Are there different types of tubes? Obviously the ID, not the OD, since they all use the same filters. _________________ '67 Micro Bus
'73 Thing
'91 Westy |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12014 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:13 am Post subject: |
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CarlSpackler wrote: |
I was set to do this last night but my T55 torx bit is way too small. It just slips in and out of the ID of the pick up tube with no interference to grab the inside of the tube. Are there different types of tubes? Obviously the ID, not the OD, since they all use the same filters. |
The T55 part isn't grabbing the pipe in the picture but the slightly larger 6 sided part of the driver. |
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iamt_roy Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2014 Posts: 1 Location: Seattle, Wa
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Quick and Easy WBX Oil Cooler Seal Replacement |
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I was set to do this last night but my T55 torx bit is way too small. It just slips in and out of the ID of the pick up tube with no interference to grab the inside of the tube. Are there different types of tubes? Obviously the ID, not the OD, since they all use the same filters. |
I ran into the same issue. Does anyone have a non-Snap On brand T55 that they've had success with? |
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61Scout Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2011 Posts: 1297 Location: Shoreline/Yakima WA
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Quick and Easy WBX Oil Cooler Seal Replacement |
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Hi everyone. So I had to do this job today, but I found my Cornwell T55 wouldn't catch the inside diameter of the tube. So I rummaged through my drawers and found a solution I thought I'd share with everyone. Especially since the photos are gone from this thread.
In any case, the tool I found that works is designed to remove heater fittings from the intake manifolds on Chevrolet V8s. They commonly will break off. I'm sure I bought mine from one of the tool trucks when I was wrenching on the line, but I also found that Lisle makes one. I would assume it's the same size since it's made to remove the same fitting. It's Lisle #62200. Looks like Dorman makes one too, their number is 800-408.
https://smile.amazon.com/Lisle-62200-Heater-Couple...ol+remover
I did have to slightly modify this tool. The one I had has a definite step to it, which didn't allow the tool to grab the ID of the tube. But the tip itself could go in, so I simply tapered the step away at the grinding wheel. Now the tool works like a champ. The best part is that it has several teeth and is also designed to be hammered into place.
Proof:
So if you're looking for an alternative to the SnapOn T55, the GM heater fitting removal tool also seems to do the trick.
-Kevin _________________ 1986 Westfalia Weekender Wolfsburg, RJE 2.3
1985 Tin Top, Subie 2.2 + 5MT
Floppy Mirrors no more: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=653018&highlight=
Remove the front spindle nut with ease: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=679567&highlight=
Remove the rear wheel bearing housing without messing with the big 46mm nut: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=679507&highlight=
-Nec Spe, Nec Metu |
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hernanys Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2012 Posts: 29 Location: Oakland CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: Quick and Easy WBX Oil Cooler Seal Replacement |
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Kevin, thanks for posting this alternate solution. I did have the same problem with the T55 torx tool not fitting inside the pipe, and followed your path. I purchased the tool, ground it, and it worked perfectly!
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bobhill8 Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2017 Posts: 737 Location: MA
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Quick and Easy WBX Oil Cooler Seal Replacement |
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Developed this cold weather leak over the last few weeks. Luckily I had planned ahead and had bought the 27mm deep socket and the heater pipe tool a few months ago. Thanks to the ghosts of Terry and Insyncro for their input as well others who left such good info on this thread. Made sure to torque to 30fp. Went smoothly and was not difficult for this advanced beginner. Went for a drive to get it good and hot and nary a drip. |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32648 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4808 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Quick and Easy WBX Oil Cooler Seal Replacement |
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djkeev wrote: |
My first attempt at removal broke my internal pipe wrench.
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this is good to know. i bought a set of USA made internal pipe wrenches off eBay just for this but the size that would fit inside the oil pipe seems very flimsy. definitely putting the T55/heater pipe tool in the road kit instead. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
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sanchius Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2007 Posts: 1456 Location: IN
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Quick and Easy WBX Oil Cooler Seal Replacement |
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djkeev wrote: |
My first attempt at removal broke my internal pipe wrench. |
I don't have a picture, but I cut two small aligned slots into the end of the pipe so I could use a straight piece of metal as a giant key/screwdriver to rotate/extract the pipe the next time I need to get in there. I'm sure I learned that trick from this list somewhere back in the mists of time. _________________ The Syncro years (2005-16) - The 2WD years (2017-23) - Westy & WBX rebuild spreadsheet - Sanchius & Tuna: The Video
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32648 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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carter turk Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Washington
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Quick and Easy WBX Oil Cooler Seal Replacement |
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I just did this today in the driveway. Might have been the quickest replacement of anything on my GL, in 23 years of ownership.
A mechanic loaned me the GM heater bit when I bought the $4 seal from him.
I had to taper the end of bit slightly w/file to fit ID of pipe, tapped it in...sort of went in crooked a few mm & used a 5/8 socket on the bit. The double threaded pipe came out easily.
Popped new seal in w/mini inner locating index's on the seal with the circular barbs, after cleaning area, tightened everything up, though I just went by feel, not by torque specs, as it felt loose when removing.
Probably should have used a torque wrench, but didn't.
I bent the old flattened seal in half & it cracked after bending it maybe 20 degrees.
Thanks 61scout for posting your solution as I just changed the oil/filter & then noticed the leak ugh, but only lost a few ounces removing the oil filter only. |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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tjet Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3533 Location: CA & NM
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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tjet Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Quick and Easy WBX Oil Cooler Seal Replacement |
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djkeev wrote: |
1/2” is a lot of oil filter thread gone....Dave |
Good point. That wouldn't fit on my engine anyway because I have a Mocal sandwich adapter with tencent's oil cooler. |
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