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obus Samba Member
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rbsurfguy Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2008 Posts: 1757 Location: Fairfax, Northern Virginia Formerly Huntington Beach, SoCal
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" |
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I do EVERY Day!!!!
Jeff _________________ 1971 Ghia convertible (Body off rebuild)
2019 VW Atlas 4Motion
2012 Passat-Sold
See my build on The Samba at:
Jeff's 71 Vert Restoration/Reassembly http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...highlight= |
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obus Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2001 Posts: 11072 Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
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Marcdeb Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3039 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:42 am Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" |
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Nice bonus. Your deal keeps getting better. The carpet looks like loop pile. The carpets from Newton Commercial are loop also, but the loops all line up in perfect rows which looks more like the original carpets. If you decide to sell it, it will help fund the carpet of your choice.
As to the vinyl boot. I don't know but I wonder if the early Ghias had Canvas or Vinyl? _________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
71 Ghia Vert Restoration: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726710&postorder=asc |
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:50 am Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" |
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moogie32 wrote: |
You'll note my top mechanism handle doesn't lock in place either! People tried to explain to me how it was supposed to work but I never was able to figure it out. Top up is over rated anyway! |
I removed mine and inspected it. It seems to have a ratcheting function using a grooved metal disc in the center of the hinge and a little sprung metal detent inside the base that has gotten gummed up. It seems that as you open and close the handle, the grooves in the metal disc should catch on the detent to hold it in a certain position, including closed. I need to get back to work on mine. I also took some pics. Maybe someday I'll post about it with pics if I get it operating properly again. _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
OG member of the '67 Posse
A few of my toys, past and present
'56 Oval, '66 KG Conv't, '67 21-Window, '67 Bug, '79 SuperVert, '55 Pre-A Continental |
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obus Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2001 Posts: 11072 Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 11005
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" |
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67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
moogie32 wrote: |
You'll note my top mechanism handle doesn't lock in place either! People tried to explain to me how it was supposed to work but I never was able to figure it out. Top up is over rated anyway! |
I removed mine and inspected it. It seems to have a ratcheting function using a grooved metal disc in the center of the hinge and a little sprung metal detent inside the base that has gotten gummed up. It seems that as you open and close the handle, the grooves in the metal disc should catch on the detent to hold it in a certain position, including closed. I need to get back to work on mine. I also took some pics. Maybe someday I'll post about it with pics if I get it operating properly again. |
If you figure it out do a tutorial please. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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moogie32 Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 663 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" |
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Braukuche wrote: |
67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
moogie32 wrote: |
You'll note my top mechanism handle doesn't lock in place either! People tried to explain to me how it was supposed to work but I never was able to figure it out. Top up is over rated anyway! |
I removed mine and inspected it. It seems to have a ratcheting function using a grooved metal disc in the center of the hinge and a little sprung metal detent inside the base that has gotten gummed up. It seems that as you open and close the handle, the grooves in the metal disc should catch on the detent to hold it in a certain position, including closed. I need to get back to work on mine. I also took some pics. Maybe someday I'll post about it with pics if I get it operating properly again. |
If you figure it out do a tutorial please. |
x2! The top is not up a lot but when it is I hate the look of the handle just hanging down... _________________ RIP HBB (1984-2009)
Du liefst so gut
Du warst so schön
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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obus Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2001 Posts: 11072 Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 11005
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" |
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I like the shift knob, the red line makes it look five miles an hour faster. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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obus Samba Member
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moogie32 Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 663 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:50 am Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" |
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Marcdeb wrote: |
Nice bonus. Your deal keeps getting better. The carpet looks like loop pile. The carpets from Newton Commercial are loop also, but the loops all line up in perfect rows which looks more like the original carpets. If you decide to sell it, it will help fund the carpet of your choice.
As to the vinyl boot. I don't know but I wonder if the early Ghias had Canvas or Vinyl? |
By 1963 boots were vinyl- not sure about 1960 but canvas always adds a classy touch. I think I remember Rome saying that your carpets should be charcoal but in any event they would have definitely been square weave. When I first was working on my car (which was also supposed to have charcoal square weave) a friend of mine gave me a set of carpets exactly like yours, except they were for a sedan. I was spending enough on the project at the time where I couldn't spring for a correct set so I used what I had (I dyed them charcoal) and then replaced them as funds became available. In my case I was looking for original pieces so I ended up doing it piecemeal. I still haven't ben able to find a nice piece for the driver's side rocker so it's still dyed loop! The correct carpet would really look nice in this car but there is no harm in installing what you have and focusing on more pressing things. I have a brand new canvas boot you can have but it's got mouse damage...rotten little buggers chewed some decent holes on both ends of it but I guess it could be patched....Got it from Chuck's and hadn't even gotten around to installing the snaps on it.... _________________ RIP HBB (1984-2009)
Du liefst so gut
Du warst so schön
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obus Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2001 Posts: 11072 Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" |
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moogie32 wrote: |
Marcdeb wrote: |
Nice bonus. Your deal keeps getting better. The carpet looks like loop pile. The carpets from Newton Commercial are loop also, but the loops all line up in perfect rows which looks more like the original carpets. If you decide to sell it, it will help fund the carpet of your choice.
As to the vinyl boot. I don't know but I wonder if the early Ghias had Canvas or Vinyl? |
By 1963 boots were vinyl- not sure about 1960 but canvas always adds a classy touch. I think I remember Rome saying that your carpets should be charcoal but in any event they would have definitely been square weave. When I first was working on my car (which was also supposed to have charcoal square weave) a friend of mine gave me a set of carpets exactly like yours, except they were for a sedan. I was spending enough on the project at the time where I couldn't spring for a correct set so I used what I had (I dyed them charcoal) and then replaced them as funds became available. In my case I was looking for original pieces so I ended up doing it piecemeal. I still haven't ben able to find a nice piece for the driver's side rocker so it's still dyed loop! The correct carpet would really look nice in this car but there is no harm in installing what you have and focusing on more pressing things. I have a brand new canvas boot you can have but it's got mouse damage...rotten little buggers chewed some decent holes on both ends of it but I guess it could be patched....Got it from Chuck's and hadn't even gotten around to installing the snaps on it.... |
Thanks for the tips and ideas moogie32! I have charcoal mats ordered and i think i am going to go with charcoal squareweave carpet. Eventually i will go with the black roof that the mcode says it came with and most likely a black canvas boot because i do like the look of the canvas. I'm going to spring for them. Im going to keep the OG seats and door panels though and just clean them up. What has me in a huff right now is the musty smell coming from under the roof/that area behind the rear seat. I have tried it sealed up and left wide open inside and out. I have put drier sheets back there etc. Theres some kind of padding there and i think it may have to go if i want to ditch that smell. Its not that good old VW smell that we all know and love either! lol
And thanks for the boot offer. Mice suck!! _________________ July 1959 Mango Standard Bus aka Obus L346 L347 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256592&highlight=
June 1973 Pumpkin Orange Thing aka Othing L30H
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711775&highlight=
1960 Paprika Red Karmann Ghia Convertible aka Schatze L452 built 5/20/60
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
66 21 window bus built 8/31/65 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=777273 |
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moogie32 Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 663 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" |
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obus wrote: |
I have charcoal mats ordered and i think i am going to go with charcoal squareweave carpet. Eventually i will go with the black roof that the mcode says it came with and most likely a black canvas boot because i do like the look of the canvas. I'm going to spring for them. Im going to keep the OG seats and door panels though and just clean them up. What has me in a huff right now is the musty smell coming from under the roof/that area behind the rear seat. I have tried it sealed up and left wide open inside and out. I have put drier sheets back there etc. Theres some kind of padding there and i think it may have to go if i want to ditch that smell. Its not that good old VW smell that we all know and love either! lol
And thanks for the boot offer. Mice suck!! |
I was hoping you'd spring for the charcoal squareweave! Your Ghia really deserves it. GREAT you are keeping your original door cards and seats- That original vinyl can really clean up well and I have yet to see a modern interior look exactly the same as the heat pleated original did. Don't know what to tell you about getting rid of the smell - is it mold or mice? Do you think it's in that padding that buffers engine noise behind the back seat? I was able to get those pieces out intact on my car - I wonder if you were able to do the same could you use some sort of enzymatic cleaner on them such as what you would use to clean up pet accidents? Might be worth a try - Good luck! _________________ RIP HBB (1984-2009)
Du liefst so gut
Du warst so schön
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obus Samba Member
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9656 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1960 Paprika Red Ghia in New Jersey "Schatze" |
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obus wrote: |
messing around he other day crawling around and under and still doing some cleaning, bought a shift knob from Project Therapy and like it better than the chipped up OG one for now
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Here are some quick enhancements to your driveway shot, to remove some "distractions" and even out some of the color on the panels. I don't have the Photoshop skills to repaint it remotely. |
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obus Samba Member
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