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allsierra123 Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2006 Posts: 1462 Location: Tecate, Baja California MX
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: How many "GREEN" people are on this forum? |
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Just curious how many DIY greenies are here? Do you frequent any forums geared towards green living? _________________ 95 GMC Yukon 6.5 TD 2 Door Tow pig/ Daily driver.
91 Vanagon GL. 1.9TD Conversion Sold
81 Vw rabbit 1.6 Diesel. Sold |
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msinabottle Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3492 Location: Denver Area, Colorado
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: Green? |
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Green...
The Martian Shop
We have just received a new board posting from deep space!
The Martian Vanagons have come to meet the human race!
<Papa oom, bee-deep, Papa oom, bee-deep, Papa oom, Papa oom, Papa oom, bee-deep!>
I got into my Vanagon, drove to the Martian shop!
I saw the 'Open' sign was on, so then I made a stop.
I opened up the sliding door and stepped out to the ground...
And saw the Martians on the floor all dancing to this sound!
<Papa oom, bee-deep, Papa oom, bee-deep, Papa oom, Papa oom, Papa oom, bee-deep!>
Bill Bixby and his Uncle Ray soon fixed all my CV's...
And levitated up the van with such apparent ease...
And Mr. Bradbury was there, and Schwarzeneggar too...
There was no Vanagon repair those Martians couldn't do...
<Papa oom, bee-deep, Papa oom, bee-deep, Papa oom, Papa oom, Papa oom, bee-deep!>
But then a bunch of Eurovans all drove up on the run...
Their repairs would cost thousands more, so much for all my fun!
So I got back into my van and drove off back around...
And even though I'm stuck on Earth, I still can hear that sound...
<Papa oom, bee-deep, Papa oom, bee-deep, Papa oom, Papa oom, Papa oom, bee-deep!>
Best! _________________ 'Winston,' '84 1.9 WBX Westy
Vanagon Poet Laureate: "I have suffered in
many ways, but never, never, never in silence." |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 80428 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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It isn't easy being green
_________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
Member #1009
#BlueSquare
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0to60in6min Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2006 Posts: 3461 Location: OR & CA (Oregon/California)
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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"How many "GREEN" people are on this forum?"
I think the answer is ALL OF US....
we use a lot of GREEN bucks to fix our VW van..
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mightyart Samba Member

Joined: March 24, 2004 Posts: 6188 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Ho ho ho
Everybody wants to be green, but what does it have to do with vanagons?
Unless it's being pulled by a horse, it isn't very green. |
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Dogpilot Samba Member

Joined: October 03, 2005 Posts: 4205 Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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As long as your van is used in NON-procreative mating, this would be green. Controlling population is the greenest thing you can do. Lord know, I'm all for non-procreative mating. Being green is all in attitude. _________________ Geology with a Syncro rocks!
86 Syncro Westy AKA "The Bughunter"
98 Disco I
08 Range Rover SC
08 VW Rabbit S
1951 O-1G |
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ChesterKV Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2005 Posts: 1725 Location: El Cerrito, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I couldn't tell you for sure but I think this version will get you to Mars....on bio-diesel ?
_________________ 1984 Wolfsburg 7-passenger stock sunroof
1992 Subaru Legacy EJ22 boxer motor installed.... van is now sold.... currently playing with a 1987 Toyota MR2 with 1.6 liter twin-cam motor. Better than the Subaru boxers....... I'm impressed. Well, okay, in an "apples and oranges" kind of way.  |
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allsierra123 Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2006 Posts: 1462 Location: Tecate, Baja California MX
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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well this thread took a very unexpected turn. _________________ 95 GMC Yukon 6.5 TD 2 Door Tow pig/ Daily driver.
91 Vanagon GL. 1.9TD Conversion Sold
81 Vw rabbit 1.6 Diesel. Sold |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 80428 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| allsierra123 wrote: |
| well this thread took a very unexpected turn. |
You've been on the Samba long enough, so you shold not be surprised. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
Member #1009
#BlueSquare
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?Waldo? Samba Member

Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 10140 Location: Where?
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| mightyart wrote: |
| Unless it's being pulled by a horse, it isn't very green. |
Why do you think horses are green? How are horses greener than running on biodiesel made from waste vegetable oil?
Andrew _________________ I am a high-functioning autistic into VW diesels and Vanagons along with other things that are unrelated to this site. |
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allsierra123 Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2006 Posts: 1462 Location: Tecate, Baja California MX
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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you know thats why people developed cars originally was due to the pollution from horses in the cities. _________________ 95 GMC Yukon 6.5 TD 2 Door Tow pig/ Daily driver.
91 Vanagon GL. 1.9TD Conversion Sold
81 Vw rabbit 1.6 Diesel. Sold |
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GeorgeL Samba Member

Joined: January 16, 2006 Posts: 7346
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Vanagon...Green...Vogon...
Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits
On a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
And hooptiously drangle me
With crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't! |
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Steelhead Samba Member

Joined: February 25, 2007 Posts: 1791 Location: Kentfield, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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getting greener.
I just changed careers to lead a green building practice for a real estate investment group here in SF.
But am I green? That's hard to quantify:
Do I buy carbon offsets for my own emmissions...no
Do I try to use public transportation...yes
Do recycle everything I can...pretty much
Am I careful to conserve water and energy...yes
Am I a vegetarian...no
Am I only buying "sustainable" products...no
Will the first house I build be made from strawbale...yes
Do I use xeriscaping...yes
Am I willing to trade my vanagon for a prius...nope
Is there really some floating islands of plastic trash that cover hundreds of square miles and are 30 feet deep in the center of the pacific ocean...yes (the pacific gyre)
Do I think water is the next oil...no, but it might get ugly in the 40 years.
Do I think climate change is manageable...no, but what the heck else are we going to do? _________________ '77 Bay Window / '89 Caratsburg (aka. the Stormtrooper) |
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bd Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2008 Posts: 153 Location: west seattle
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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i'm extremely green whenever i see pics posted of dogpilot's ride. _________________ 1990 2wd TriStar, Oettinger-tuned 1.6L TD |
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madmax25 Samba Member

Joined: March 04, 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Kansas City MO
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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I try to be whenever possible, but I have to admit that the beloved van is probably my biggest smudge on old mother nature...
whenever I hear a vanagon go by and comment to my GF about how much I love the sound of the rumbly boxer, she replies with, "It sounds like pollution".
Emissions aside, 16 mpg isn't the greenest thing either...I'm secretly hoping to throw a rod so I can do some sort of uber green conversion and run it off of potatoes and coathangers or something
ooh, or even better...
I wonder if Doc Brown has any spare Mr. Fusions laying around..... _________________ -Elliot
'88 Vanagon GL "Big Red"
'90 Westy |
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mightyart Samba Member

Joined: March 24, 2004 Posts: 6188 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| Andrew A. Libby wrote: |
| mightyart wrote: |
| Unless it's being pulled by a horse, it isn't very green. |
Why do you think horses are green? How are horses greener than running on biodiesel made from waste vegetable oil?
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It takes energy to make biodiesel, energy was used to produce the vegtable oil, and energy was used to make the vegtable oil waste, most of it from burning coal. then on top of it your burning the biodiesel. |
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mightyart Samba Member

Joined: March 24, 2004 Posts: 6188 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| allsierra123 wrote: |
| you know thats why people developed cars originally was due to the pollution from horses in the cities. |
It was? |
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bucko Samba Member

Joined: December 09, 2004 Posts: 2617 Location: Coppell, Texas
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| mightyart wrote: |
| allsierra123 wrote: |
| you know thats why people developed cars originally was due to the pollution from horses in the cities. |
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Huh??? I don't believe that was Henry Ford's driving force in his auto....
Now perhaps some of the other auto manufacturers had this "horse crap" in mind...
Do you have any backing to this? I'm interested in learning if this was the real deal behind the auto industry. _________________ Current VW drives: 1984 Westfalia
Past VW drives: 1967 Beetle, 1973 Beetle, 1977 Bus, 1971 Military Type 181 |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4570 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| bucko wrote: |
| mightyart wrote: |
| allsierra123 wrote: |
| you know thats why people developed cars originally was due to the pollution from horses in the cities. |
It was? |
Huh??? I don't believe that was Henry Ford's driving force in his auto....
Now perhaps some of the other auto manufacturers had this "horse crap" in mind...
Do you have any backing to this? I'm interested in learning if this was the real deal behind the auto industry. |
I don't think so, either. No more so than it influenced the Wright brothers to bring their project along.
No, these guys were sorta hobbyists driven by passion for acceptance. Only later did the capitaism drive take effect. Though Henry was one of the most far thinking (come would say conniving) in that regard.
Keep in mind that both in Europe and the US there was already a very functional mass transit system in place. (one could virtually go any place in the lower 48 in about 4 days in relative comfort.)
The first 20 years of automobiling, cars were just TOYS. Rich men's toys for sure. Motoring was motor sport. No one would have been so foolish as to rely on them to drive to work, unless you had a chauffeur.
(An interesting GREEN sidebar: Has anybody seen the very neat water turbine powered generator at Henry Ford's residence, Fairlane? I guess Henry didn't like the idea of being beholden to the power company?
Did Henry have a ten-cent-life? )
Al _________________ Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4570 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| mightyart wrote: |
| allsierra123 wrote: |
| you know thats why people developed cars originally was due to the pollution from horses in the cities. |
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Naw, that's why they developed raised sidewalks and gutters.
Al (with rubber boots on.) _________________ Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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