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nize Samba Member

Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 537 Location: Sweden - Cheesy town
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:28 am Post subject: Need some measurements... |
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Does anyone out here know the distance from center to center between the rear torsion tube and the front torsion tubes? I found a 59 split bus mechanics book that states that it is 2148.5mm - 2149.5mm with tolerances but the question is if the barndoor has the same measurements?
Also measured from the center of the rear torsion tube, how much higher does the lower front torsion tube sit?
Hope that you can follow me. I am about to build a chassis jig for my 54 but I have nothing to measure on at the moment. _________________ ----------(VW)----------
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1957 lowlight ghia coupe
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barnduude Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2008 Posts: 91 Location: belgium
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:55 am Post subject: |
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alo,
i have taken a look and it was lenght center to center 2140mm
and in hight front is 55mm lower.
grtz to all. _________________ www.everyoneweb.com/luftwaffenracing
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'68 APAL samtrack.
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djfordmanjack Samba Member

Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2365 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I took this from the 1956 book 'Querschnitt durch die Autotechnik 6, Volkswagen 1950-56'. The book is all 30hp up to 54 bug/bus except for a few additional tables so this should be Barndoor, especially when concerning the offset steering geometry.
A is backside of frontaxle flange ( where the bolts go through)
B is middle of rear torsion bars
C is the gauge made for measuring these dimensions
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nize Samba Member

Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 537 Location: Sweden - Cheesy town
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Thanks alot... then the drawing I made should be ok. But what is the mesurement on the left most side? Looks like as if something is of centre? _________________ ----------(VW)----------
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1957 lowlight ghia coupe
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nize Samba Member

Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 537 Location: Sweden - Cheesy town
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:02 am Post subject: |
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djfordmanjack wrote: |
I took this from the 1956 book 'Querschnitt durch die Autotechnik 6, Volkswagen 1950-56'. The book is all 30hp up to 54 bug/bus except for a few additional tables so this should be Barndoor, especially when concerning the offset steering geometry.
A is backside of frontaxle flange ( where the bolts go through)
B is middle of rear torsion bars
C is the gauge made for measuring these dimensions
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By the way... its definitely barndoor measurements in your picture... check out the steering wheel... _________________ ----------(VW)----------
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barnduude Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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alo,
and off centre steering pin.
grtz to all. _________________ www.everyoneweb.com/luftwaffenracing
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'68 APAL samtrack.
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djfordmanjack Samba Member

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nize Samba Member

Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 537 Location: Sweden - Cheesy town
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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In order to finish my chassis jig I need to do a support for the front beam.
However to do this I must know the CC-distance between the lower front axle tube and the rear axle tube in the vertical plane. I.e. how much lower does the lower front axle tube sit than the rear torsion tube?
Is there anyone out here who knows this distance? Judging from the picture from "djfordmanjack" above it should be something like 110 mm - 30mm (thickness of the 2148.5 mm rod) - 30mm (half the thickness of the front torsion tube) = 50 mm.
Can someone confirm this? _________________ ----------(VW)----------
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1957 lowlight ghia coupe
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nize Samba Member

Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 537 Location: Sweden - Cheesy town
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:00 am Post subject: |
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nize wrote: |
In order to finish my chassis jig I need to do a support for the front beam.
However to do this I must know the CC-distance between the lower front axle tube and the rear axle tube in the vertical plane. I.e. how much lower does the lower front axle tube sit than the rear torsion tube?
Is there anyone out here who knows this distance? Judging from the picture from "djfordmanjack" above it should be something like 110 mm - 30mm (thickness of the 2148.5 mm rod) - 30mm (half the thickness of the front torsion tube) = 50 mm.
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Just posting this if someone else should need it... I have got 20 mm from two different independent sources. So the lower front axle tube sits 20mm lower than the rear axle measured center - center. _________________ ----------(VW)----------
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sirairy Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Is here somewhere dimension pictures of barndoor? I really appreciate if I will get the chassis dimensions: height in front/cargo/rear areas and distances |
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