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Drew Ogden
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| The wood ones look ok if you cover them with some og seat material... |
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bastardbus
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Is anybody doing a decent reproduction of the arm rests for the short 2/3 middle seats currently? I am in need of one, original or repop.
I did see the crude wooden ones listed in the classifieds but was looking for something a little more correct then just a chunk of wood...
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scottle
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Thanks for the link. I'm just after basic rough dimensions at this stage if anyone has them to hand. Doesn't have to be super accurate.
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Shoyrtt
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Hi, Can anyone please post the dimensions of these seats. I have been doing various searches for days but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Specifically floor to seat underside, floor to seat top, seat depth, overall height etc.
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Are you planning to build your own middle seat? Full width or a 2/3rds seat? If you look at the second post in this thread by Lind, there are lots of different seats made over the years. If you want just a general idea of dimensions on a full width seat, you might check with one of the reproduction vendors like ISP West. https://vwispwest.com/full-width-middle-seat-bus-1955-1967-221881021b/ |
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scottle
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Hi, Can anyone please post the dimensions of these seats. I have been doing various searches for days but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Specifically floor to seat underside, floor to seat top, seat depth, overall height etc.
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Is there a source (other than other middle seats) for the springs in the seat bottom? I'm not referring to the heavy springs usually around the perimeter, but the smaller wire springs which are often doubled up.
They are about 6 or 7 coils high which is taller than other seats (beetle and bus front seats, beetle rear seats) so I can't steal springs from those sources.
I'm talking about the dozens of springs you see here in the bottom of this seat
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rudygetz
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Is there a company in the US that is recreating 2/3 seats for split windows? I've come across repops for the full bench seat but not 2/3.
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Lind
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:57 am Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Has anyone used this full middle seat for their bus? It says 1955 -1967 which of course is not the same seat, but I have a 1967 that needs a full middle seat and this looks close, but how close?
I'm looking for feedback from anyone that has seen or worked with this seat. I see the same seat is for sale from Wolfsburg west.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2576086 |
It is a copy of a '67 only middle seat, which has the diagonal support in the legs. The seats work well. The bolts that hold the flipper portion on are not correct, they should be flathead screws. Those are a design flaw on original seats which have never been improved upon with the repro seats. stock ones are just threaded screws with no shoulder or anything so they can torque down, so the outer one loosens up over time and falls out. The inner one is generally held in place by the seat upholstery. Also the bottom bar on the backrest is a C shaped piece on original seats, but it is a sealed tube on the reproduction seats, so you need to cut a slice in it so the upholstery can go into the channel like it did originally.
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Stocknazi
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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With the far (vargo side) leg kicked out like that, and the extra support braces, it looks like they copied a 64-67 seat.
If that's the case it should be more correct for a 67 than a pre-64.
A modified bay 2/3 would also work for your 67 since they share the same later outer leg floor mounting position.
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Has anyone used this full middle seat for their bus? It says 1955 -1967 which of course is not the same seat, but I have a 1967 that needs a full middle seat and this looks close, but how close?
I'm looking for feedback from anyone that has seen or worked with this seat. I see the same seat is for sale from Wolfsburg west.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2576086 |
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woodfloor1967
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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| Hello, any photos of a flat back middle without the seat covers installed? Need pics of springs. |
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Whereabouts in South Dakota? Been quite a few buses from there, especially the south east.
I'm in NE Iowa and visited a cleanout of a place called Lacey's near Garretson about 20 years ago. |
Mike Lacey in Trent, SD bought out Larry Axemaker's place in Bridgewater, SD in the early 90's. Last time I drove through Trent, Lacey had a couple crappy VW's around, but mostly American iron these days.
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j.pickens
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Nice Find!
Based on this photo, it appears to be a '58 seat as the back rest is curved:
1955-57 are "flat back" seats where the back rest goes straight down.
Flat back rest full-length seat:
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It might not have come from a walk-through Bus, you could order a short middle seat for any Bus and I've seen a few early Buses with bench front seats and short middle seats.
The drilled legs for wood so it could be free-standing to sit on is not uncommon, I've seen that a few times and had a middle seat like that too. |
Blown away by your knowledge as usual Everett! Thanks for all the help, this is the first middle seat I have gotten my hands on so I'm still learning for sure |
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Nice unobtanium seat you got there!
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thekombistop
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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| EverettB wrote: |
Nice Find!
Based on this photo, it appears to be a '58 seat as the back rest is curved:
1955-57 are "flat back" seats where the back rest goes straight down.
Flat back rest full-length seat:
Notes:
It might not have come from a walk-through Bus, you could order a short middle seat for any Bus and I've seen a few early Buses with bench front seats and short middle seats.
The drilled legs for wood so it could be free-standing to sit on is not uncommon, I've seen that a few times and had a middle seat like that too. |
Blown away by your knowledge as usual Everett! Thanks for all the help, this is the first middle seat I have gotten my hands on so I'm still learning for sure |
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EverettB
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Nice Find!
Based on this photo, it appears to be a '58 seat as the back rest is curved:
1955-57 are "flat back" seats where the back rest goes straight down.
Flat back rest full-length seat:
Notes:
It might not have come from a walk-through Bus, you could order a short middle seat for any Bus and I've seen a few early Buses with bench front seats and short middle seats.
The drilled legs for wood so it could be free-standing to sit on is not uncommon, I've seen that a few times and had a middle seat like that too.
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House
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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| Wow, nice seat! Not a lot of busses out there needing that one, but cool find! |
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Whereabouts in South Dakota? Been quite a few buses from there, especially the south east.
I'm in NE Iowa and visited a cleanout of a place called Lacey's near Garretson about 20 years ago.
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thekombistop
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Hey everyone! I just recently picked up a very rare 2/3 soft green bench from an auction in rural South Dakota! Its been in a barn for decades and the PO is deceased so I'm unsure of how it ended up there or where the rest of the bus is (as the PO had 0 other VW related things to give any clues). Not sure specifically what year this bench is from, but I am of the understanding it is a 55-58 PGSG soft green bench that would've also been the uncommon walk-through option because it's a 2/3. Only cosmetic defects are the missing armrest, a 2 inch separation in the trim on the bottom half towards the center, and 2 small cracks on the bottom half next to the second seam from the right. The bottom rails also had 2 holes drilled in each with boards attached to them when I picked it up. I'm looking to sell in the near future as I don't have a PGSG and would love for this to go to someone in need of an OG 2/3 bench. Keep an eye out in the classifieds for it or shoot me a message if interested. Thanks
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sundialer66
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Middle seats |
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Wow!! Thank you!!
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