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tanhis
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 Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:17 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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Hello,
I actually looked into it several months ago to make another run.
As we all know life became expensive.
I need to ask around Euro 850 a set to make this happen with just a very very small profit to be made.
I can't image I would sell 50 of these at such a hefty price.
103 sets were made and sold. I do have set #68 on my '68 fasty and one spare set just in case it can happen again.
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Hope that you would make another run as I would be willing to pay 850€ a set and quite sure I am not the only one.
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BSQUARE
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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| BerT3 wrote: |
I do have set #68 on my '68 fasty and one spare set just in case it can happen again.
BerT3 |
That's clever!
I have set #10 just sitting in my basement, still in the packing. Are they old enough to be considered NOS yet?
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stonewood
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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There is no chance for narrowed arms in Germany with the TÜV.
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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| Clatter wrote: |
Russell Ludwig at Old Speed can make narrowed arms out of stock cores,
As well as dropped spindles.
Both are welded. |
Don't know if welded arms and or spindles are TUV rated. I only mention that as "stonewood" is in Germany.
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Clatter
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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Russell Ludwig at Old Speed can make narrowed arms out of stock cores,
As well as dropped spindles.
Both are welded.
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BerT3
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| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:22 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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Only dropped spindles.
I never made narrowed trailing arms.
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stonewood
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Location: Germany
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| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:34 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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| BerT3 wrote: |
Hello,
I actually looked into it several months ago to make another run.
As we all know life became expensive.
I need to ask around Euro 850 a set to make this happen with just a very very small profit to be made.
I can't image I would sell 50 of these at such a hefty price.
103 sets were made and sold. I do have set #68 on my '68 fasty and one spare set just in case it can happen again.
BerT3 |
Hi BerT3
Only dropped spindles or also narrowed trailing arms?
Greetings
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BerT3
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| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:16 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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Hello,
I actually looked into it several months ago to make another run.
As we all know life became expensive.
I need to ask around Euro 850 a set to make this happen with just a very very small profit to be made.
I can't image I would sell 50 of these at such a hefty price.
103 sets were made and sold. I do have set #68 on my '68 fasty and one spare set just in case it can happen again.
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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| stonewood wrote: |
Are these dropped spindles still for sale?
What about narrowed trailing arms? |
Talk to BerT3 in Belgium &
Mario in Germany for recommendations on parts & services in Europe.
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rosevillain
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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| stonewood wrote: |
Are these dropped spindles still for sale?
What about narrowed trailing arms? |
Bert spindles were a one off, many years ago. Not many were made. Contact Russell at OldSpeed, he does drop spindles and narrowed control arms. Last I checked they were exchange/ service. His reputation is excellent. |
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stonewood
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:06 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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Are these dropped spindles still for sale?
What about narrowed trailing arms?
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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| I've been curious about this as well. The only drop spindles I could find are the vintage v-dubs ones as well. But considering the reviews on here, I will not be getting those. I've read lowering your car with the torsion bars isn't the best for your suspension parts. Are drop spindles the best way to get a little drop and a bit more of a sporty handling experience? |
not in my opinion. If you are only wanting a mild drop, 2 maybe 3 splines and smaller front tires will be fine on your suspension. you'll even be able to use the stock oil shocks, have a great feeling ride, and looks good.
some of us are even blasphemous and lower otherwise completely stock type 3's and 34's a spline just to get rid of the nose high look  |
Yup, the front of my Notch has been lowered 2 "inner" splines since 2000, and I haven't had any issues with it. Same goes for my wife's 70 Orange Fastback...2 "outer" splines down since 2000. Mines even running the 50+ year old original VW front shocks. My wife's car is running lowered link pin oil shocks without any issues.
Rob's Roadster is at least 3 splines down up front, with lowered link pin shocks. He's also running 195-50-15's up front for fender clearance.
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60DoubleTurd
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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I believe those are the same ones I had on the Kombi.
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Erik G
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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| What if we want it hammered?? Do they make shorter shocks now? |
you can use lowered Link pin Beetle shocks. |
just an FYI these "barndoor shocks" are generally better makes than the empi "lowered bug shocks". That 5752 Number is the key, Monroe has them too, the monroe 5752 (probably the same as the napa shock)
I had to re-use the metal bushing from the old shocks on my oval when I used these
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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| What if we want it hammered?? Do they make shorter shocks now? |
you can use lowered Link pin Beetle shocks.
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60DoubleTurd
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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What if we want it hammered?? Do they make shorter shocks now?
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Erik G
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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| I've been curious about this as well. The only drop spindles I could find are the vintage v-dubs ones as well. But considering the reviews on here, I will not be getting those. I've read lowering your car with the torsion bars isn't the best for your suspension parts. Are drop spindles the best way to get a little drop and a bit more of a sporty handling experience? |
not in my opinion. If you are only wanting a mild drop, 2 maybe 3 splines and smaller front tires will be fine on your suspension. you'll even be able to use the stock oil shocks, have a great feeling ride, and looks good.
some of us are even blasphemous and lower otherwise completely stock type 3's and 34's a spline just to get rid of the nose high look
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60DoubleTurd
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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I hear the Russ at OldSpeed makes them. I called but it looks like he's out of town for a bit. I will try again next week and follow up here.
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loganzillmer
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Type 3 dropped spindles |
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| I've been curious about this as well. The only drop spindles I could find are the vintage v-dubs ones as well. But considering the reviews on here, I will not be getting those. I've read lowering your car with the torsion bars isn't the best for your suspension parts. Are drop spindles the best way to get a little drop and a bit more of a sporty handling experience? |
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